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    The fact that you guys try to equate androgynous adults to children is really skeevy to me. There are cultures out there where males have more "feminine" features and they do not look like children. Stop trying to paint a whole group with the pedo brush just because you dont want what they want and its easier to get people on your side if you villainize the otherside. This isnt Tumblr.

    And again before you jump on me what I want is short really buff veira so dont even try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrie View Post
    The fact that you guys try to equate androgynous adults to children is really skeevy to me. There are cultures out there where males have more "feminine" features and they do not look like children. Stop trying to paint a whole group with the pedo brush just because you dont want what they want and its easier to get people on your side if you villainize the otherside. This isnt Tumblr.

    And again before you jump on me what I want is short really buff veira so dont even try it.
    It isn't the androgynous bit that makes people say that, this is a long thread with a lot of replies that's seen it all by now. There have definitely been some very suspect things people have been asking for, so when you combine all the traits we've seen asked for a million times before to justify why male Viera are somehow bishōnen the red flags come up for many.

    No one has actual beef with short really buff clearly adult Viera other than that's not their own vision for them, it's also not Yoshida's vision for male Viera last we heard so it's just as unlikely as the waifish tiny nymph male Viera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrie View Post
    The fact that you guys try to equate androgynous adults to children is really skeevy to me. There are cultures out there where males have more "feminine" features and they do not look like children. Stop trying to paint a whole group with the pedo brush just because you dont want what they want and its easier to get people on your side if you villainize the otherside. This isnt Tumblr.

    And again before you jump on me what I want is short really buff veira so dont even try it.
    If you pay attention to some of the history with the XIV community, particularly the stuff surrounding the r/ffxiv mod team, you'll see that concerns around child abuse aren't exactly crazy to have.

    Every person defending the idea of uwu softboi bun guys is acting as if their opposition is literally calling them pedophiles. We are not. We are saying the thing that those people are calling for will appeal to pedophiles. We don't like that.

    The idea that somehow we're going to get male Viera that are short, slim, soft and androgynous is literally moot. We won't, it's been confirmed. Please let it die, there is a 0% chance so just stop pushing it.

    Lalas are cartoon characters at best btw. Their proportions are so far from normal humans that to compare them to actual children is laughable. If your kid is shaped like a lala please seek medical help immediately.
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    Last edited by Veis_Alveare; 08-09-2020 at 06:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    If you pay attention to some of the history with the XIV community, particularly the stuff surrounding the r/ffxiv mod team, you'll see that concerns around child abuse aren't exactly crazy to have.

    Every person defending the idea of uwu softboi bun guys is acting as if their opposition is literally calling them pedophiles. We are not. We are saying the thing that those people are calling for will appeal to pedophiles. We don't like that.

    The idea that somehow we're going to get make Viera that are short, slim, soft and androgynous is literally moot. We won't, it's been confirmed. Please let it die, there is a 0% chance so just stop pushing it.

    Lalas are cartoon characters at best btw. Their proportions are so far from normal humans that to compare them to actual children is laughable. If your kid is shaped like a lala please seek medical help immediately.
    The easiest way to describe lalafells are chibi dwarves. Or the more common method: Evil Popotos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    If you pay attention to some of the history with the XIV community, particularly the stuff surrounding the r/ffxiv mod team, you'll see that concerns around child abuse aren't exactly crazy to have.

    Every person defending the idea of uwu softboi bun guys is acting as if their opposition is literally calling them pedophiles. We are not. We are saying the thing that those people are calling for will appeal to pedophiles. We don't like that.

    The idea that somehow we're going to get male Viera that are short, slim, soft and androgynous is literally moot. We won't, it's been confirmed. Please let it die, there is a 0% chance so just stop pushing it.

    Lalas are cartoon characters at best btw. Their proportions are so far from normal humans that to compare them to actual children is laughable. If your kid is shaped like a lala please seek medical help immediately.
    As someone who survived CSA Pedophiles will use anything. Literally anything. You should be concerned about pedophiles in most things because they are there and they know how to act normal. An androgynous adult will not bring them because they are already here and already using what the game has for whatever they want. Ive seen enough art to know what, not even roe are safe.

    Also Ive said nothing about lalafel. I do know you cant post lewd art on them about discord though, so if you want to do that take it up with them, though I am going to look at you suspect now, cause that can also be seen as a red flag.

    Also I never said anyone thought I was a pedo for wanting short buff males lol, that was for people would try to call me one just because Im on the side of just let people want androgynous adults if they want. We dont even know if they will happen.
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    Last edited by Corrie; 08-09-2020 at 06:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrie View Post
    We dont even know if they will happen.
    We do know, though. It was addressed already - it won't be happening.

    Thank god.
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