Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SomeRandomHuman]

If you are referring to me or other posters, we have all already had this exact conversation, over, and over, and over, and over. I am not just making this stuff up. What I specifically put in my post, has been posted before as justification for their "androgynous" quota. To shoehorn male viera as some young teen boy - which YES some have literally asked for in the past under the exact same justifications. To qualify for their little quota, "variety", "even out the races", they, and again I've had this conversation before, do not acknowledge male miqo'te. They are too tall, their body is too bulky, and their faces aren't androgynous. If you get shorter than male miqo'te you are getting female au ra heights, probably even shorter. Like I said 4'10. They want a slim little boys body, no muscle definition at all, and a soft "Androgynous" face. How are any of those descriptors NOT asking for a child-like race?! I am sure there are people here who firmly agree in the racial quota, who truly don't want a child-like race, but there are many who do want one.

Since you seem to be obsessed with male miqo'te, I'll give you a comparison to midlander.

In terms of height miqo'te have a nice range. They go from anywhere from very tiny at minimum to about averege. Midlanders go from pretty much average to above average.

For the musculature and body shape; midlander is the epitome of an "averege joe" in pretty much every way. Not overly built, but not overly slender. Miqo'te are more top-heavy but follow a similar shape. They have wider shoulders and chests but their legs are a touch slimmer. They have no musculature adjustment and they're locked to around 50 on the slider when compared to midlander's freedom on it.

Midlander has the most faces and each face pretty much has their own flavor to play with. Miqo'te have 4 faces and each have a very defined characteristic: there's an averege face, an old/mature face, a youthful face, and a psudo mature face.

I like to think I now made it clear what I'd like to see: A male with a below averege build with a fairly generous height slider to allow towards the lower end of miqo'te up to the upper middle of midlander. Naturally I'd like there to be some face variety so that it can appeal to more than one niche.

Then as far as shoehorning goes we already know what Yoshi P pictures for male viera thanks to an interview sometime back and his vision is what would most likely happen were they to actually do so. So debating how we think they should look is really just a pipe dream and a half.

[SturmChurro]

Since you seem to be obsessed with male miqo'te, I'll give you a comparison to midlander.

In terms of height miqo'te have a nice range. They go from anywhere from very tiny at minimum to about averege. Midlanders go from pretty much average to above average.

For the musculature and body shape; midlander is the epitome of an "averege joe" in pretty much every way. Not overly built, but not overly slender. Miqo'te are more top-heavy but follow a similar shape. They have wider shoulders and chests but their legs are a touch slimmer. They have no musculature adjustment and they're locked to around 50 on the slider when compared to midlander's freedom on it.

Midlander has the most faces and each face pretty much has their own flavor to play with. Miqo'te have 4 faces and each have a very defined characteristic: there's an averege face, an old/mature face, a youthful face, and a psudo mature face.

I like to think I now made it clear what I'd like to see: A male with a below averege build with a fairly generous height slider to allow towards the lower end of miqo'te up to the upper middle of midlander. Naturally I'd like there to be some face variety so that it can appeal to more than one niche.

Then as far as shoehorning goes we already know what Yoshi P pictures for male viera thanks to an interview sometime back and his vision is what would most likely happen were they to actually do so. So debating how we think they should look is really just a pipe dream and a half.

I know what they look like. I was referencing posts in the past about this exact same topic. The only thing inbetween is already what I referenced, and I was specifically referencing other's posts. Male midlanders are "too tall" (even their minimum), and like I said again, as you said, miqo'te too bulky, and also they have said they are "too tall" as well (like I said). I was just giving an example for the supposed quota that people want. Also, male miqo'te are literally the race used to describe what faces may look like on a male viera so there is precedent to reference them in general. It doesn't even matter anymore.. Just the same thing over and over in this thread, and I'm a part of it. Tired of this one, this is the second circle.

[Skolopendrokot]

Since you seem to be obsessed with male miqo'te, I'll give you a comparison to midlander.

In terms of height miqo'te have a nice range. They go from anywhere from very tiny at minimum to about averege. Midlanders go from pretty much average to above average.

For the musculature and body shape; midlander is the epitome of an "averege joe" in pretty much every way. Not overly built, but not overly slender. Miqo'te are more top-heavy but follow a similar shape. They have wider shoulders and chests but their legs are a touch slimmer. They have no musculature adjustment and they're locked to around 50 on the slider when compared to midlander's freedom on it.

Midlander has the most faces and each face pretty much has their own flavor to play with. Miqo'te have 4 faces and each have a very defined characteristic: there's an averege face, an old/mature face, a youthful face, and a psudo mature face.

I like to think I now made it clear what I'd like to see: A male with a below averege build with a fairly generous height slider to allow towards the lower end of miqo'te up to the upper middle of midlander. Naturally I'd like there to be some face variety so that it can appeal to more than one niche.

Then as far as shoehorning goes we already know what Yoshi P pictures for male viera thanks to an interview sometime back and his vision is what would most likely happen were they to actually do so. So debating how we think they should look is really just a pipe dream and a half.

But why are you talking about 'them'? I've said my opinion a few times and made it clear enough to see it doesn't have anything in common with that. If anyone wants male Vieras to look like Feol boys, it would be just as uncomfortable as looking at AuRa females with their mates (well, basically any mates, since some of them look like very young teenage girls). I've never stated that this is something I want, so please do not do this kind of comparison.

Oops, it looks like I quited the wrong person. I meant SturmChurro.

[SomeRandomHuman]

But why are you talking about 'them'? I've said my opinion a few times and made it clear enough to see it doesn't have anything in common with that. If anyone wants male Vieras to look like Feol boys, it would be just as uncomfortable as looking at AuRa females with their mates (well, basically any mates, since some of them look like very young teenage girls). I've never stated that this is something I want, so please do not do this kind of comparison.

Your opinion has the same value as mine does, so I advise against trying to put yours above others'.

I also never stated anything about them being underaged "feol boys" as you call them. You're the one twisting things and putting words in others' mouths. A below average build does not automatically mean teenager. The point of reference for "average" is midlander.

So by your logic Yoshi P is a feol boy since he is of a smaller body type. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows Yoshi P is very clearly an adult male.

[Skolopendrokot]

Your opinion has the same value as mine does, so I advise against trying to put yours above others'.

I also never stated anything about them being underaged "feol boys" as you call them. You're the one twisting things and putting words in others' mouths. A below average build does not automatically mean teenager. The point of reference for "average" is midlander.

So by your logic Yoshi P is a feol boy since he is of a smaller body type. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows Yoshi P is very clearly an adult male.

I didn't want to quote your post, I meant StormChurro's one. I'm sorry, jsut clicked the wrong one.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I didn't want to quote your post, I meant StormChurro's one. I'm sorry, jsut clicked the wrong one.

Rip in piassa! xDDD