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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Aurum Vale ruined.

    May as well add indicators for every telegraphed fight at this point.
    And why would this be a bad thing? People learn at different rates and aoe markers do nothing but make the game more accessible.

    The whole "It was hard in my time / it was hard for me so it HAS to be hard for everyone else" is nothing more than gatekeeping and it needs to end.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 08-07-2020 at 10:00 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And why would this be a bad thing? People learn at different rates and aoe markers do nothing but make the game more accessible.

    The whole "It was hard in my time / it was hard for me so it HAS to be hard for everyone else" is nothing more than gatekeeping and it needs to end.
    Everyone deserves a painful surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    MsQi's Avatar
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And why would this be a bad thing? People learn at different rates and aoe markers do nothing but make the game more accessible.

    The whole "It was hard in my time / it was hard for me so it HAS to be hard for everyone else" is nothing more than gatekeeping and it needs to end.
    I've never seen anyone not get through it. There are more wipes to trash and the other two bosses.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    I've never seen anyone not get through it. There are more wipes to trash and the other two bosses.
    The Arum Vale experience:

    START
    Tank runs ahead, over pulls, wipe.
    Tank is more careful, Healer gets yeeted by a toad, over pull and A. Desperate struggle or B. Wipe.
    First boss (when you get to it) is a breeze.
    Repeat the first two steps and in the case of Morbols, oops Bad Breath.

    No one's wiping to Coin Counter unless the healer is literally not paying attention or asleep.
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And why would this be a bad thing? People learn at different rates and aoe markers do nothing but make the game more accessible.

    The whole "It was hard in my time / it was hard for me so it HAS to be hard for everyone else" is nothing more than gatekeeping and it needs to end.
    No, just no. There has to be a limit and a point where you gotta improve...
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    And why would this be a bad thing? People learn at different rates and aoe markers do nothing but make the game more accessible.

    The whole "It was hard in my time / it was hard for me so it HAS to be hard for everyone else" is nothing more than gatekeeping and it needs to end.
    Hm? Coincounter wasn't hard even without indicators. Every move he performs can be dodged with ease by standing just behind him in his hitbox, or in the case of the big swing it can just be stunned or ran away from. The only attack anyone should be getting hit by ever is auto-attacks.
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