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  1. #31
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    odintius's Avatar
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Don't worry just keep a lookout for a post saying how many rmt accounts that were banned for whichever month then please look forward to another then another and then..... Yes I'm being sarcastic I like see something done, but I made another chat box shouts/say/tell off and switch to it if in a city state a crap solution..
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  2. #32
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    This is just going to get worse. I heard they are going Free to Play up to lvl 60 and free Stormblood unlock. So prepare to tab your chat channels.
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  3. #33
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Awful analogy. /Say and /shout are not important. There is no meaningful interaction in them. They're relics of bygone MMO social ideology. If people insist on using them, fine, people can do whatever they want, but that does make them important.
    You are entitled to be wrong.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

  4. #34
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    Eldred Draconis
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    You are entitled to be wrong.
    Ah, yes, the great "you're wrong because I said so," poster.

    I'm not wrong, but thanks for playing.
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  5. #35
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    X'lota Qi
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    Lamia
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Ah, yes, the great "you're wrong because I said so," poster.

    I'm not wrong, but thanks for playing.
    You are wrong because you are wrong. They serve purposes that other features do not serve and people use them for those purposes. You are taking what you do with your time and only seeing that as important.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuC365vjzBFmvbu6M7dB80A

  6. #36
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    One way to kill the spam in this game is to just switch chat to Battle mode. I use it whenever I have to spend time in Limsa.
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  7. #37
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    I honestly think they should limit accounts to 8 max. You can still purchase four more accounts to bring the total back up to 40 in a data center so you won't lose those lvl 1 alts that you've had since ARR. Having a 40 character limit is just too much for an average person, especially the demographic that this game is trying to cater too. If they limit character accounts to 8 max you've reduced RMT bots by 80%, per account, and you got rid of people who have lvl 1 alts with names that they are holding on to that others want to use. It's a win-win IMO with SE getting more subs from people with disposable income and slowing down RMT enough to where it becomes a bigger obstacle to spam said RMT.

    Example: 5 RMT accounts * 40 = 200 bots vs 5 RMT accounts * 8 = 40 bots. It's pretty clear which would reduce the spam.

    They also need to implement a flag system where "Report for RMT" gets time stamped and is tallied up server side for the devs to look at. It doesn't take a genius to if see lots of people are reporting, Gewruiwe Ghghghgjgkf: www .buyxgold. xc0m, in /shout is clearly a bot. From there they can proceed to investigate the account or if multiple characters linked to the account is reported they can ban at their leisure and not the waves that we've been getting because that is clearly not working. If there is an element or randomness to an account ban RMT will have to go through more hurdles to ensure they aren't running at a loss.

    Ultimately RMT is the combination of others looking to exploit lazy or uninformed player and Dev's inability to asses the seriousness of the situation. Though with the amount of RMT spam I jokingly think that the dev team are slow to ban RMT accounts just so they can brag about their registered player numbers to the public.
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  8. #38
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    I honestly think they should limit accounts to 8 max. You can still purchase four more accounts to bring the total back up to 40 in a data center so you won't lose those lvl 1 alts that you've had since ARR. Having a 40 character limit is just too much for an average person, especially the demographic that this game is trying to cater too. If they limit character accounts to 8 max you've reduced RMT bots by 80%, per account, and you got rid of people who have lvl 1 alts with names that they are holding on to that others want to use. It's a win-win IMO with SE getting more subs from people with disposable income and slowing down RMT enough to where it becomes a bigger obstacle to spam said RMT.

    Example: 5 RMT accounts * 40 = 200 bots vs 5 RMT accounts * 8 = 40 bots. It's pretty clear which would reduce the spam.
    I'm not sure how that would actually change anything because the bots aren't using alts plus when they get banned, they ban the entire account, not just the character.
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  9. #39
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    Kay Radley
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    This is just going to get worse. I heard they are going Free to Play up to lvl 60 and free Stormblood unlock. So prepare to tab your chat channels.
    If the same chat restrictions apply, they won't be able to /shout or /tell. It's not going to be worse, because the main hubs of activity are still the 2.X cities.
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  10. #40
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Gil sellers always find a way to promote their business. There is nothing anyone can do to completely stop them. As long as players are able to speak freely in a chat without moderation, gil sellers can too.
    Yes but you could look into every 10-30+ mill gil transaction... or FC's that make 300 mill a day or smt like this... with the internal data they have or can gather by observing them, there must be some ways to at least slow em down. Worst case do a 24 hour limit of gil you can hand over/receive...

    And finally, nothing stops SE from just buying a bot themselves and really look into them, and keeping em up to date to counter em.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    There is literally no way for a low lvl character to earn enough gil to sell without it being given to them.
    There is, they spam the lv 50 dungeons and stuff, now with the higher level stuff included...



    Untimately i dont see why they can even go anywhere a normal player cant go, normally the server should instandly kill em if they went out of boundry. IDK why the "client" can just state "yo im X66 Y13 and Z-20" without the server even checking if you can go there...
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