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    Edax's Avatar
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    Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is a real place in Wales. Those poor poor people......
    https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
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    Jkap Goat
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    they need to fix the shout chat in FFXI, it filled with BOTS on the Asura server!

    Please SE, do something! It's so bad, I had to turn off my shout because it was filled with RMT bots

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    Last edited by Jkap_Goat; 07-31-2020 at 09:35 AM.

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    Word filters can easily be bypassed by adding special characters to the original word while still being readable. What will you do when the gold sellers shouting scripts will generate on the fly thousands of variations like g_old, g'ol'd, go.l.d, g*o*l*d, etc ? All the time developing the filter would have been for nothing. It has been a long time that you can already see special characters in their messages btw.

    As for the gibberish names, i prefer for them to use that, than to switch to more common ones that legit players would want to use.

    And SE is already fighting against that, with thousands of accounts banned each week : https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...eeb5c58d2c4400. The fact that you can see some shouts in town doesn't mean they do nothing about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Word filters can easily be bypassed by adding special characters to the original word while still being readable. What will you do when the gold sellers shouting scripts will generate on the fly thousands of variations like g_old, g'ol'd, go.l.d, g*o*l*d, etc ? All the time developing the filter would have been for nothing. It has been a long time that you can already see special characters in their messages btw.

    As for the gibberish names, i prefer for them to use that, than to switch to more common ones that legit players would want to use.

    And SE is already fighting against that, with thousands of accounts banned each week : https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...eeb5c58d2c4400. The fact that you can see some shouts in town doesn't mean they do nothing about it.

    they need to do something about the RMT bots in FFXI, SE needs to step up their game
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    All classes are feeling way too similar, the game has already being too streamlined for too long in terms of builds and player style and customization. Is the price to pay for balance and honestly, i don't know if its worth it. We should get more freedom to play roles in a more diverse way, the trinity has served it's function, is time to move on.

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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    The RMT in FFXI back when I played it weren't really that smart. But then there also wasnt a trial edition to use for the purpose of making spam bots either. However the ones actually out there trying to gather the gil to sell would frequently fall for things like accepting blind party invites as HNMs and not notice it was set to quartermaster.

    I recall some paid sub MMO's in the past going as far as to ban MAC addresses on hardware and also ban credit cards from use in the payment system.
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    the easiest solution is probably to add a mute list to automatically block any messages in chat with a word you dont want

    these bots already type "gil" and "pvpbank" with special characters to begin with so it wouldn't filter out regular people saying gil




    on a small tangent, theres a 3rd party tool that has a working rmt spam filter so its really not that impossible
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    One change I feel could help is adding a threshold for the number of RMT reports; for example, if a character is reported as RMT by, say, 30 separate players or so, that character should immediately be banned from using any chat channels until a GM/RMT taskforce can review their chat log. Bots who are reported by multiple people, multiple times even, shouldn't be allowed to sit at the main aetherytes for literal hours just spamming chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarehptar View Post
    One change I feel could help is adding a threshold for the number of RMT reports; for example, if a character is reported as RMT by, say, 30 separate players or so, that character should immediately be banned from using any chat channels until a GM/RMT taskforce can review their chat log. Bots who are reported by multiple people, multiple times even, shouldn't be allowed to sit at the main aetherytes for literal hours just spamming chat.
    That is a very bad suggestion. People can just get their friends and/or fc to report someone they don't like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seddrinth View Post
    That is a very bad suggestion. People can just get their friends and/or fc to report someone they don't like.
    They do have that little disclaimer that people who abuse the RMT report function can be subject to punishment.

    If people actually are organized enough to report someone who isn't actually spamming that's an easy way to get themselves a warning from a GM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    If my name is lAHASjyhwhejkwenmnsdzcs kjhawjkdhajkhdjkashdkjah and I type the word Gold in Shout and /Say then I probably do not have the best intentions.

    Seriously other MMO devs have at least figured this out 8+ years ago how to control the Shout spam.

    Come on guys! You can design Ultimate Alexander but banning this is not possible?
    Hardly the best advice ever.

    Square Enix cannot add enough staff to monitor every chat on every server constantly. This is why they rely on us to help them.

    The best thing we can do is report and block the RMT sellers so it isn't profitable for them to be on FFXIV.
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