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    Catching up with the last few pages, I guess that's how they're going to kill two birds with one stone and make us fight Elidibus and G'raha simultaneously in a limit-one-per-patch raid encounter. Elidibus possesses G'raha, who will remember at the worst possible moment that basically all of his tech was given to Allag in order to make better puppets for the Ascians. Oops.

    Basically the entire trailer is screaming "Look! The Exarch is going to die!" which can only mean that he will actually survive in some capacity. With his final line in the trailer, I think we can finally be reasonably sure that the Exarch has finished readying his Source-side insurance policy. I wonder if his lines about forgetting may fit into a greater context about his Source self not having the memories of the Exarch. (I hope that's the worst of the damage, anyway).

    Still waiting on our Scions: The Next Generation expac where Krile and Unukalhai actually get to do stuff, and a younger, stupider G'raha (excuse me, "Raha") would round out the group nicely. Not to mention all the stuff Allag did in Meracydia, like trapping the Triad and Tiamat, who's still just hangin' over in the Underutilized Floating Outpost...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Still waiting on our Scions: The Next Generation expac where Krile and Unukalhai actually get to do stuff, and a younger, stupider G'raha (excuse me, "Raha") would round out the group nicely.
    It would be an expansion of Krile dragging everyone, and I would live for it.

    That would be an interesting dynamic though. Krile is a Conjurer, Unukalhai is either a Thaumaturge or a Black Mage, G'raha was an Archer on the Source but also can be a Paladin, White Mage or Black Mage as the Exarch. Assuming he does get reawakened on the Source, I wonder if he'll go back to being an Archer, or swap jobs to fit a more balanced group dynamic?

    On the other hand though, considering Unukalhai is knowing a pawn of Elidibus just like Ardbert and his group, I'm curious how that will play out. It invites that fraction of a possibility that a new expansion could take place on the Thirteenth as we attempt to turn back the Void. (I personally would prefer to see Meracydia, of course, and I think hopping to another world again would come too soon and leave us disconnected with what's going on in Eorzea.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    On the other hand though, considering Unukalhai is knowing a pawn of Elidibus just like Ardbert and his group, I'm curious how that will play out. It invites that fraction of a possibility that a new expansion could take place on the Thirteenth as we attempt to turn back the Void. (I personally would prefer to see Meracydia, of course, and I think hopping to another world again would come too soon and leave us disconnected with what's going on in Eorzea.)
    We've already been to the Thirteenth once before, it's the World of Darkness, so there is very little there and populated entirelly by Voidsent, certainly not enough to base an entire expansion around even if there was another "restore the elemental balance" thing like Eden.

    The First at least has some of it's original landscape intact, the Thirteenth is completely lost as the Void, so it would take a hell of a lot more than just summoning mock-Primals to restore that, probably more than what anyone or anything would be capable of - not even the Ascians themselves seemed to know how to solve that particular problem, or if they did, they weren't showing it.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    not even the Ascians themselves seemed to know how to solve that particular problem, or if they did, they weren't showing it.
    Not entirely true. The Shadowkeeper was somehow convinced by the Ascians that the Flood could be used to turn back the Void, at least enough to trigger a Rejoining. Not to mention that if the Void was completely irredeemable from the Ascian's perspective, their plan would already have been permanently halted by Igeyorhm. It seems reasonable they thought it could be fixed, they just hadn't completed their plans to do so, just like we interrupted their plans with the First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    It seems reasonable they thought it could be fixed, they just hadn't completed their plans to do so, just like we interrupted their plans with the First.
    Yes it would. But until the lore comes out and says "It can be fixed", I'm on the side of "It can't be fixed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Yes it would. But until the lore comes out and says "It can be fixed" I'm on the side of "It can't be fixed".
    Hol' up.

    I'm saying there's a slim chance they may eventually do an expansion related to the Void.

    The counterargument being made is "There's no point because the Void can't be fixed until the lore says it can be."

    Meaning that there's no opportunity for them to create said lore because... the lore isn't... already there?

    ... That's some pretty circular logic, mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archwizard View Post
    Hol' up.

    I'm saying there's a slim chance they may eventually do an expansion related to the Void.

    The counterargument being made is "There's no point because the Void can't be fixed until the lore says it can be."

    Meaning that there's no opportunity for them to create said lore because... the lore isn't... already there?

    ... That's some pretty circular logic, mate.
    We are told that the Void is 'useless' on multiple occasions to the Ascian's plans. Well, once in game, other times through interviews with Koji Fox and Banri Oda. Even the whole "Flood of Darkness on the 13th causing an inevitable Flood of Light on the 1st" is pretty sketchy because the information comes from the Ascians themselves, who have proven to be liars in the past. Also the Void as it is has no aether, as we have been told by Koji himself, so until they backtrack on that statement, "It can't be fixed" because there is nothing left to fix it with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    We are told that the Void is 'useless' on multiple occasions to the Ascian's plans. Well, once in game, other times through interviews with Koji Fox and Banri Oda. Even the whole "Flood of Darkness on the 13th causing an inevitable Flood of Light on the 1st" is pretty sketchy because the information comes from the Ascians themselves, who have proven to be liars in the past. Also the Void as it is has no aether, as we have been told by Koji himself, so until they backtrack on that statement, "It can't be fixed" because there is nothing left to fix it with.
    Has no aether? Well, that can't be true. There are beings there that do have aether, so there's aether in the form of living aether. There's also clouds, crystals, and the bridges of hard aether that you walk across during World of Darkness. Then the Roaring Atomos fight's battle text, "Atomos Prime is channeling aether to the Roaring Atomos!" It's more likely that they just haven't completed a storyboard for it yet.
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    I hope they don't do an expansion solely on the Void. Hopping to other Shards to save them multiple times gets boring.

    (Also still angry no one ever considered dealing with WoD's overflowing Light by shipping it off to the Void, balancing out some darkness there.)
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Yeah I wouldn't want, nor would think that we get an expansion for The Void. I'm fairly certain any otherworldly business will be concluded via mentions or bigger stakes stuff while we explore other regions on The Source. I hope so, anyway.
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