Predictions for 5.3?

[Enkidoh]

On the other hand though, considering Unukalhai is knowing a pawn of Elidibus just like Ardbert and his group, I'm curious how that will play out. It invites that fraction of a possibility that a new expansion could take place on the Thirteenth as we attempt to turn back the Void. (I personally would prefer to see Meracydia, of course, and I think hopping to another world again would come too soon and leave us disconnected with what's going on in Eorzea.)

We've already been to the Thirteenth once before, it's the World of Darkness, so there is very little there and populated entirelly by Voidsent, certainly not enough to base an entire expansion around even if there was another "restore the elemental balance" thing like Eden.

The First at least has some of it's original landscape intact, the Thirteenth is completely lost as the Void, so it would take a hell of a lot more than just summoning mock-Primals to restore that, probably more than what anyone or anything would be capable of - not even the Ascians themselves seemed to know how to solve that particular problem, or if they did, they weren't showing it.

[Archwizard]

not even the Ascians themselves seemed to know how to solve that particular problem, or if they did, they weren't showing it.

Not entirely true. The Shadowkeeper was somehow convinced by the Ascians that the Flood could be used to turn back the Void, at least enough to trigger a Rejoining. Not to mention that if the Void was completely irredeemable from the Ascian's perspective, their plan would already have been permanently halted by Igeyorhm. It seems reasonable they thought it could be fixed, they just hadn't completed their plans to do so, just like we interrupted their plans with the First.

[MrThinker]

It seems reasonable they thought it could be fixed, they just hadn't completed their plans to do so, just like we interrupted their plans with the First.

Yes it would. But until the lore comes out and says "It can be fixed", I'm on the side of "It can't be fixed".

[Archwizard]

Yes it would. But until the lore comes out and says "It can be fixed" I'm on the side of "It can't be fixed".

Hol' up.

I'm saying there's a slim chance they may eventually do an expansion related to the Void.

The counterargument being made is "There's no point because the Void can't be fixed until the lore says it can be."

Meaning that there's no opportunity for them to create said lore because... the lore isn't... already there?

... That's some pretty circular logic, mate.

[MrThinker]

Hol' up.

I'm saying there's a slim chance they may eventually do an expansion related to the Void.

The counterargument being made is "There's no point because the Void can't be fixed until the lore says it can be."

Meaning that there's no opportunity for them to create said lore because... the lore isn't... already there?

... That's some pretty circular logic, mate.

We are told that the Void is 'useless' on multiple occasions to the Ascian's plans. Well, once in game, other times through interviews with Koji Fox and Banri Oda. Even the whole "Flood of Darkness on the 13th causing an inevitable Flood of Light on the 1st" is pretty sketchy because the information comes from the Ascians themselves, who have proven to be liars in the past. Also the Void as it is has no aether, as we have been told by Koji himself, so until they backtrack on that statement, "It can't be fixed" because there is nothing left to fix it with.

[Vyrerus]

We are told that the Void is 'useless' on multiple occasions to the Ascian's plans. Well, once in game, other times through interviews with Koji Fox and Banri Oda. Even the whole "Flood of Darkness on the 13th causing an inevitable Flood of Light on the 1st" is pretty sketchy because the information comes from the Ascians themselves, who have proven to be liars in the past. Also the Void as it is has no aether, as we have been told by Koji himself, so until they backtrack on that statement, "It can't be fixed" because there is nothing left to fix it with.

Has no aether? Well, that can't be true. There are beings there that do have aether, so there's aether in the form of living aether. There's also clouds, crystals, and the bridges of hard aether that you walk across during World of Darkness. Then the Roaring Atomos fight's battle text, "Atomos Prime is channeling aether to the Roaring Atomos!" It's more likely that they just haven't completed a storyboard for it yet.

[MrThinker]

Has no aether? Well, that can't be true. There are beings there that do have aether, so there's aether in the form of living aether.

Voidsent are alive in the same way Sin Eaters are, i.e. not at all, Vauthry being a twisted exception till he fully turns into Innocence.

It's more likely that they just haven't completed a storyboard for it yet.

They have completed it, since patch 3.5 when we learn of Unulkalhai's true origins

The star I failed to save is known to you now as “the void.”
Though (Forename) knew not that I spoke of my homeland, I have explained to him before the cause of its ruin. A magick was devised to contain a defeated primal's might within a stone known as “auracite.” And the energies which bled from this imperfect vessel gradually corrupted the champions who wielded it.
These heroes became slaves to an insatiable hunger for aether, eventually transforming into hideous fiends. And none who clung to the faint traces of Light were strong enough to oppose them.
The demons next turned upon each other in a war which drained the land's aether in ever greater amounts, until one day the star was suddenly swallowed in a flood of Darkness. An entire world unmade in an instant.
The voidsent you encounter here in this realm are the twisted remnants of once-mortal beings who gnaw on what motes of life force remain...

The Dark void that we know is void of aether, but you still have the people and animals that were there and they’re aether-starved and trying to break through into our world and suck that aether back into their own.

Yes, it is possible that they retcon this, but as far as we know, they have not, and until then I am staying with what we know.