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    Regarding the voidsent being hungry for aether, remember what we learned about the sin eaters? they are hungry for living aether

    Living aether so to speak has a balance of astral and umbral aether. With the sin eaters overaspected with one kind, they have the primal urge to go after the opposite either to rebalance themselves or convert it to their own

    So with the voidsent, the same would be true, just the opposite kind of aether. Which means the bulk of the thirteenth is a dark reflection of the empty.


    Which makes the power of Eden and Omega extremely disconcerting- Eden can outright manipulate any element and may have been the true reason the flood started. We still don't know what it was about Eden that made it register on Ryne's vision and the theory Urianger had about it being the first sin eater is questionable given its some sort of living machine.
    Omega plausibly had the same power as Eden as it could create life even if the beings lacked a soul but tthe Ascians never did much with it besides having allag study it.
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    Not to mention that strictly speaking,the Void does not have to be restored per se. Much like Auamrot, the original denizens of the Void were lost long ago.

    Likewise there isn't much reason to visit the other shards as the calamities can and had been prevented Source-side preventing the worlds from even meeting, the First was only an exception because the method of the 8th Calamity was something that also killed us and also something that was hard to prevent (being a chemical weapon and all).

    (this also means that we might face ourselves if the glowing people are WoL of dead shards and timelines is true)
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    I do not believe we'll ever go back to the 13th. I do however believe it will be repaired or on the way to be repaired at the end of the Eden raids thanks to the power of Eden itself to control aether. It created the Empty, and could potentially use the same power to recreate the 13th. But just like the First, it would take so long for the shard to be repaired completely that we'd never see the finished work.
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    Eden seems like a possible way for them to "fix" the 13th, and given that time between shards is not a 1:1 parallel they could always send Eden off and then have it be fixed when we manage to get there. As for how we get there, we know from the Magical DPS story in ShB that you can enter the rifts between the 13th and other areas without dying. While how that works and all the specifics of that aren't hammered out that's already a possible answer. More importantly if they want to do it they'll come up with some justification. Changing time is impossible, so says Alexander, until we get Shadowbringers and the Exarch does it. Hopping to other dimensions was also a one way trip, and now here we are doing it regularly. The methods done currently can't be replicated, but none of that omits a possible future variant. And more importantly if they want to they'll do it and just come up with some random explanation, that's how it works.
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    I'm still a little confounded by Tycoon. Gonna hafta review things when I get back there in my playthrough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    I'm still a little confounded by Tycoon. Gonna hafta review things when I get back there in my playthrough.
    Granted, I said "it is implied" like it was the only conclusion, but I should phrase it more "it implies to me and most anyone else I've discussed this with" due to the fact that the area we fight in (the Dimensional brake) shuts down after its defeat. You might come to a different conclusion.
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    Didnt they make it seem like the other shards may be ignorant anyway of the original world being split? I mean most people on the source don't realize this either. (Granted it doesnt mean that there arent people on other shards who know this, but that does seem like they direction they were pushing it into). I mean even Ardbert and Co didnt know that other shards and the source really existed, (atleast not until closer to their end) or did I read that wrong?
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    I'm still confused about how G'raha got the beacon to us in the first place. Has that ever been explained/touched on? It *is* something from the First/bad future, right? It had the Iron Works logo on it.
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    Well he could've just sent it back in time first, then traveled to the first, as its implied it was already there right after we ended the CT raids... but ofc, those are within their comfy time bubble >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Didnt they make it seem like the other shards may be ignorant anyway of the original world being split? I mean most people on the source don't realize this either. (Granted it doesnt mean that there arent people on other shards who know this, but that does seem like they direction they were pushing it into). I mean even Ardbert and Co didnt know that other shards and the source really existed, (atleast not until closer to their end) or did I read that wrong?
    Yes the story of the Shards and Source is not common knowledge. We get told of it by the Word of the Mother, and anyone else who knows within our allies can trace the flow of info back to us. Ardbert and co may have been told by Cylva or Elidibus, because it certainly wasn't Hydaelyn.
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    Last edited by MrThinker; 07-29-2020 at 10:34 AM.

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