Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Macleod]

While I firmly believe the existing genders should be improved from their current state, I also firmly believe the missing genders should be added to the game...hopefully all of which will happen for 6.0 (but I'm not going to hold my breath). I didn't really care about it much for awhile, but damn, I've seen some awesome concept/fan art of male viera and if they would do anything close to a couple of the ones I saw, I'd probably have to fantasia.

[Amnmaat]

While I firmly believe the existing genders should be improved from their current state, I also firmly believe the missing genders should be added to the game...hopefully all of which will happen for 6.0 (but I'm not going to hold my breath). I didn't really care about it much for awhile, but damn, I've seen some awesome concept/fan art of male viera and if they would do anything close to a couple of the ones I saw, I'd probably have to fantasia.

Just like female Viera brought good balance to the tall females in the game, so will male Viera bring that semblance of manlyness to the tall males in the game. The thing about male Au ra is that they have this very specific look to them; thin waist, wide hips, lizard/gecko run animation and that awkward "living on the edge" air about them (think Dark Knight quest giver Sidurgu or Magnai). Male Elezen on the other hand are nerds, very much the proud elf trope. Male Viera would be able to stand firmly as neither a nerd not an edgelord. They would be tall, rough, and non-assuming.

This official sketch of them really brings that non-assuming look I believe they will be like.


For me, more than any of the current males they really pull off the "protector" type very well.

[SturmChurro]

Just like female Viera brought good balance to the tall females in the game, so will male Viera bring that semblance of manlyness to the tall males in the game. The thing about male Au ra is that they have this very specific look to them; thin waist, wide hips, lizard/gecko run animation and that awkward "living on the edge" air about them (think Dark Knight quest giver Sidurgu or Magnai). Male Elezen on the other hand are nerds, very much the proud elf trope. Male Viera would be able to stand firmly as neither a nerd not an edgelord. They would be tall, rough, and non-assuming.

This official sketch of them really brings that non-assuming look I believe they will be like.


For me, more than any of the current males they really pull off the "protector" type very well.

Are you just knowingly leaving out Highlanders, Roe, and Hrothgar? For sake of argument, fine let's leave out Hrothgar. Highlanders are both tall, and muscular, and fit your "tall, rough, and non-assuming" descriptor. Roe would also fit this description, but they are more broad than highlanders. The statement that male viera would bring "manlyness", or "balance", to tall males, is ridiculous, in my opinion.

Also, for that matter, if we are going to base the assumed look of male viera off of this concept art - one those feet are a no go - they have bestial looking faces in comparison to the female shown. Is a more bestial look something male viera supporters want?

[MirronTulaxia]

I’d like them being more in line with male Miqo’te. We have Au’ra, Roegadyn, Hrothgar, and Highlander all for more buff males, something cute/pretty for them fits.

[Amnmaat]

Are you just knowingly leaving out Highlanders, Roe, and Hrothgar? For sake of argument, fine let's leave out Hrothgar. Highlanders are both tall, and muscular, and fit your "tall, rough, and non-assuming" descriptor. Roe would also fit this description, but they are more broad than highlanders. The statement that male viera would bring "manlyness", or "balance", to tall males, is ridiculous, in my opinion.

Also, for that matter, if we are going to base the assumed look of male viera off of this concept art - one those feet are a no go - they have bestial looking faces in comparison to the female shown. Is a more bestial look something male viera supporters want?

Some qualities will overlap, but some are more defining than others.
Male Highlanders are the sloppy protectors; need I say more?
Male Roegadyn are the epitome of protectors but their other defining quality is their gentlemanly demeanour; they're the ones who would do anything to not offend his woman kind of man. Very classical gentleman.

Races are not one dimensional, some qualities stick out more than others. My point is that male Viera would be the perfect protector male because they fit that super hero trope; "by the time you see a male viera you're already dead" type of deal. And just looking at the official sketch/concept art they look non-assuming, as well as looking at female Viera and how they are. This goes into psychology and probability, but I'll just say that's what I believe they will be like, as I stated in my original post. If they end up like I think they will they will really stand out in 2 particular qualities: hero and protector.

As for "beastial" face you're talking about, that's not a beastial face, that's just how female Viera look but more rugged/male. Viera have the same pronounced jaw structure.

[Vahlnir]

I’d like them being more in line with male Miqo’te. We have Au’ra, Roegadyn, Hrothgar, and Highlander all for more buff males, something cute/pretty for them fits.

I'd be willing to bet that they'd use male Au Ra's general form, but with some alterations. If males are vastly different from females then it must be quite a transformation. Still though, male elezen (again with some alterations) with rabbit ears are just as likely, at least in my opinion.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

1. Just because there is a 0.0000001% chance they will add another race it doesn't mean that it will happen. The evidence given supports the claim more on that you will never see a new race like Baanga than that you will. The chance is so small they had no other choice but to split Viera/Hrothgar.
2. You're just arguing to argue haha; that's a false equivalency. Yoshida stated they're looking at a solution that would allow them to add the missing genders. No such statement or any equivalent was made about adding a new race, on the contrary, many points were made as to why it's an impossibility to add a new race.
3. Au ra: Au ra went through that rigorous process I explained. Yoshida explained why they added Au ra instead of Viera, he's the producer, he's the one that puts the "feature" forth for the various departments to examine, including the CEOs. I'm sure a few of them asked them why not Viera, but his presentation for Au ra convinced them. Why? Because he had data and other research to back it up such as the poll they did back in 2012. It's not jargon, it's called running an organization. You cannot make decisions by yourself, specially with the company's premier franchise.

1: A chance is still a chance. Low odds, are still a chance. Low Probability, is still a chance.
Until it IS literally said Outright No New Race is Going to be Added, the Chance is still there. He outright said No to Playable Child Characters, he didnt outright say No to a new race in the later future. They split Hrothgar and Viera because they wanted to do both is the "possibility" this might be the last time they might be able to make a new race. Did you see that word again? "Possibility"
Ill patiently wait for you to prove that claim that he said outright no btw. Im open to being wrong, but right now I think you are just lying and being dishonest to try and desperately sneak in a win for your argument.
2: With that logic, why couldn't they still make a new race? You realize the same amount of work will go into make the opposite gender, as it would to just make a new race right?
Making the Model, customization options, animations, emotes, scaling and adjusting Past & Future Armor, etc. Its the same amount of work.
3: Yeah, "They wanted to do something new. They were going to do Viera back in heavensward, but decided against it in the end" Explain what data he could have used to justify the Au-Ra. That poll says More Clans to existing Races, the Viera, and Mixed Race Cross-species were Popular and high on the chart, so again, going off of the Poll, the Viera was the clear winner. Followed by Interspecies Mixed Races, and Additional Clan Types to pre-existing races. Something like the Au-Ra places 4th on the chart. This "Data and research" says the playerbase Desired something else, but YoshiP and team to decided to go with making the Au-ra, a less popular choice by the poll. So he in fact decided to go for a less desired choice, according to the data.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

I’d like them being more in line with male Miqo’te. We have Au’ra, Roegadyn, Hrothgar, and Highlander all for more buff males, something cute/pretty for them fits.

Something cute or pretty does not fit them at all. They're supposed to be hardened warriors that defend their forest. It's not about meeting some quota. I'd prefer they be accurate to the lore.

[Roda]

Something cute or pretty does not fit them at all. They're supposed to be hardened warriors that defend their forest. It's not about meeting some quota. I'd prefer they be accurate to the lore.

By lore standards, she is also a battle hardened warrior (literally!) and yet~


Male rabbits irl fill the same societal role as male viera in the game (stay outside the nest and protect their colony, only entering to mate), and I'd say they're pretty damn cute. And on top of that they are typically smaller because smaller frames have been naturally selected to help them stay stealthed in their environment. Hmm, sounds familiar... (It's almost like aesthetic design and western human beauty expectations don't dictate how a species fills their niche???!)

[SpiralMask]

the thought of male viera being yet more twinks does amuse me, but in my minds eye all I can see is al-cid margrace with rabbit ears for them

edit: i'd personally be fine with basically anything that isnt actively bara (we've got vanilla and furry already) or the weirdly proportioned dorito/gymrat that is au'ra (it legit screws with their gear appearances, with the shoulders/pauldrons being super oversized and the waists being super cinched for some reason, stuff like the farlander striking set and the crystarium guard gear from story REALLY showcase it)

Male Roegadyn are the epitome of protectors but their other defining quality is their gentlemanly demeanour; they're the ones who would do anything to not offend his woman kind of man. Very classical gentleman.

this gave me pause--arent the majority of male roes we meet either super crass/rapey pirates (limsa), meathead gladiators (uldah), or two-bit lackey villains (garlemald/doma, universal generic Mooks in all factions)?

I find it's generally more of a case of naming the few decent ones (mistbeard--who is arguable, since he is literally one of the bloodiest scariest pirates to ever live even if he's retired and dialed it back of late, WVR trainer, the gorge brothers, rhitatyn, the boulder brothers, gosetsu(??)).