Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[BadLala]

To them, yes.
This however has repercussions. It just means they didn't learn from the 1.0 lessons.
Brand and product/service loyalty takes a hit when things like that happens. Hey they want to gamble, we're just here giving them a chance to rectify their bad decision. When ignored people do what people are wont to do; move to a product where the developers listen to them.

Do you have a source where they said that about genderlocking? Because going by what everyone is saying without a source won't lead to anything. Even the GDC talk by Yoshida had no mention of this being an issue when he went over what plagued 1.0.

Sadly it also reinforces the cliched stereotype that females should be sexy and males should be powerful and big.

Sad truth, but we'll probably see more of it because it sells.

Adding the missing gneders isnt adding new races, it's finishing them from my point of view
Also, I would think there's a reason that they have been delivering less content, possibly to make room for player models/ male viera and fem hrotgar/ customization options

It IS like adding new races. It's purely from modeling point of view. It doesn't matter if they were called male Viera and female Hrothgar or if they were completely new races. The more 3d mesh you have to consider, the more time it takes when making a gear piece. And this increases further and further with time as more gear is being added.

If you don't create an automated algorithm to do that for you, which is not an easy job especially if you don't want horrible clipping, then it becomes a nightmare to the designer when they have more stuff to consider every time they design a new gear. WoW has it easy for it because if you look at the gears they're mostly the same low-poly models with different textures and some tweaks here and there. FFXIV creates high-poly models, then create the normal maps and then use it on a low-poly model. And recently, if you noticed, the newer gears have diffuse maps as well. Also, each gear designed has to consider what type of other pieces is interacting with it. You can see a simple glimpse of what goes on here https://youtu.be/hteHjgVwK6k?t=152

No, they stated in an interview they specifically didn't give them hairtsyle because of specific design reasons

Hrothgars do actually have separate hairstyles from their heads. They just fixed each head with certain hair types because they didn't adjust each hairstyle to work on all head types. But, the head and hair parameters are still separate just like any other race in the game. You can see that in some NPCs that have different hairstyle+head combo than what you can currently make (and there are other ways to know that for sure).

[zeylos]

Because they had custom heads? I said that.

I still have got to wonder where exactly you get all your marketing expertise.

1.- I recall they specifically said it was not because of the models, but they intentionally left it out, it was said in an interview

2.- I took it as a subject, and I'm no 'expert' at it ,but I think marketing is quite easy to understand

[Amnmaat]

Just from personal experience Hrothgar are very rare. They only seem somewhat popular in packed cities because they stick out among all the humans. Crunch the data over a month from all the dungeons/raids you've played daily and you'll notice how few Hrothgars you'll encounter. Mind you this is true of Roegadyn and Elezen as well; Hrothgar is somewhere near the least popular.

I also recall something about Yoshida telling the dev team to not bother making separate hair styles for Hrothgar; he made that decision for them himself. I'm guessing he made that decision based on how little time they had before the expansion. As we all know they were still having trouble with them in the japan fanfest in March and their faces went through another change around May. They bit off more than they could chew trying to make an animal race.

[SturmChurro]

I took it as a subject, and I'm no 'expert' at it ,but I think marketing is quite easy to understand

I see, I see. If it was so easy to understand, then why do you seem to post the exact same thing every time you post in this thread about it as if it was new information?

[RightfulKing]

Regarding race popularity, I think there's a site that measures that? It's called FFXIV Census. IDK how reliable it is, but hrothgar are much lower than viera in popularity. I also hardly ever see them. Which is kind of sad, since I like them so much!

I hope we get male viera and female hrothgar. That might encourage people to make more of them.

[zeylos]

I see, I see. If it was so easy to understand, then why do you seem to post the exact same thing every time you post in this thread about it as if it was new information?

As if ti was new information? There has literally been a cycle in the conversatiion for months now, but ofc, u will call me out on repeating myself or my statements. Sigh, this thread is honestly a bad attempt at a kardashians rip-off at this point. At least they making money off of it lmao

[CrispyUnicycle]

we need lizard lad bangaas

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Don't pretend haha
GW2 was crashing and burning in 2018. What XIV offers over them is not a better cat race but a better game; GW2 isn't in maintenance mode right now for no reason. FFXIV offers Charr players a big and thriving population, you know the first reason to play an mmorpg? As far as Elders Scrolls, well while it's still doing well what better way to pique their interesting, as well as World of warcraft players who were looking for the exodus.

I always laugh when you think this is not the case. If adding Ronso mattered that much to them they would've added them with Heavensward.

What is there to Pretend? I think you completely jumped over the point of my post. You claim the Hrothgar are apparently designed to draw in Elder Scrolls fans and Guild Wars fans. My point was Feline Beast Races are just popular in general. Nearly every Sci-fi and Fantasy game has a Feline Beast Race.
The Hrothgar have limited Customization and headgear options. Comparing that to what the Charr and Khajiit have in their games, what draw is there to the Hrothgar? A Beast race? Sure, but once they see how limited they currently are, they'd probly be in the same boat as others and say "Screw this" and play a different race to fulfil that.

I didnt mention anything about the game itself. Just that its interesting that you claim the Hrothgar were made to bring in fans of other games...that in fact currently handle their Feline beast race better.

Also...they arn't Ronso, they are just called that on the First, perhaps as just a fun callback to FFX. And there in only One option that has a Unicorn Horn.
If they all had Unicorn Horns, then they would be Ronso, no questions asked.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

we need lizard lad bangaas

I support this...but lets be real...the headgear situation would be just as bad if not worse.

[Amnmaat]

What is there to Pretend? I think you completely jumped over the point of my post. You claim the Hrothgar are apparently designed to draw in Elder Scrolls fans and Guild Wars fans. My point was Feline Beast Races are just popular in general. Nearly every Sci-fi and Fantasy game has a Feline Beast Race.
The Hrothgar have limited Customization and headgear options. Comparing that to what the Charr and Khajiit have in their games, what draw is there to the Hrothgar? A Beast race? Sure, but once they see how limited they currently are, they'd probly be in the same boat as others and say "Screw this" and play a different race to fulfil that.

I didnt mention anything about the game itself. Just that its interesting that you claim the Hrothgar were made to bring in fans of other games...that in fact currently handle their Feline beast race better.

Also...they arn't Ronso, they are just called that on the First, perhaps as just a fun callback to FFX. And there in only One option that has a Unicorn Horn.
If they all had Unicorn Horns, then they would be Ronso, no questions asked.

We already had a feline race.
Case closed.