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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    Just going to correct a bunch of things here, point for point.
    This is stunning. I have never read a response that could be more wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    -First of all, once you're a month or more into a tier where people have access to much more gear there is zero excuse to not do uptime strats. It kills the boss faster and it's more efficient. Moreover, if I were to go and do E2S right now and my group didn't skip Quietus and Cycles I would instantly leave that group because such poor performance with how much we outgear that content now is just unacceptable.
    There are numerous reasons people wouldnt use uptime strategies.

    1. They arent comfortable with it.
    2. Most are more risky.
    3. Heavens forbid someone uses a more successful strategy, that involves a higher chance of success.

    Success should be the number 1 goal. Not damage.

    If a party wipes 15 times trying to do "uptime" but can one shot using a more successful strategy, the "high damage faster uptime" is ... a waste of time.

    I dont even know how you people can come up with this type of nonsense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    -If TBN does not break then you have objectively used it incorrectly. A TBN that doesn't break is nothing more than a waste of 3,000 mana and it really is as simple as that. The fact of the matter is that damage is king in XIV, and a non-broken TBN is a direct loss of 500 potency, thus translating to using the skill wrong if it doesn't break.
    The Blackest Night is a mitigation action. Thats literally all it does. If it mitigates any damage, it is not used incorrectly.

    Its not a waste of MP if you use it and it mitigates damage. Its literally as simple as that.

    You are so horribly wrong its unfathomable.

    The skill literally says

    Creates a barrier around target that absorbs damage totaling 25% of target's maximum HP.
    Duration: 7s
    Grants Dark Arts when barrier is completely absorbed.
    Dark Arts Effect: Consume Dark Arts instead of MP to execute Edge of Shadow or Flood of Shadow.

    That is literally like saying you used Abyssal Drain, but didnt gain any HP is a waste of Abyssal Drain.

    That is literally the exact same mind set based on the action descriptions.

    Literally exactly the same. Literally based on what you said, or implied, that failing to gain Dark Arts to "save" the MP, and not using the action to its fullest potential is a waste of the action and incorrect usage.

    Like seriously thats just wrong.

    Description of Abyssal Drain for reference:

    Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 200 to target and all enemies nearby it.
    Additional Effect: Restores own HP
    Cure Potency: 200



    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
    -Unless the melee/tank player intentionally failing a mechanic to gain uptime results in someone dying or the raid wiping then there is absolutely no reason for said melee/tank player to NOT ignore that mechanic. There are only two times that a mechanical failure actually matters, and those are if it gives a damage down or if the vuln that it would give you will directly translate to your death. Outside of those two specific situations you should absolutely eat the mechanic to gain uptime.
    -Yes hello, pugged the entire Eden's Gate savage tier as well as all of my EX clears. I can safely say that I have had nothing but positive results when 'ignoring' mechanics for uptime, when doing uptime strats, and have had nothing but negative results when failing to break TBN.
    If you're happy with based on rankings clear rates, only 100,000 people clearing Shiva, and you're happy with abysmal clear rates, and people leaving parties after 1-2 wipes, and less than .05% of the community clearing fights, then yes, yes what you preach is good solid and sound.

    I personally find the success rates of groups absolutely horrid, and I never find it to be the fault of a "casual" but someone who refuses work with the team. Based on everything you said, you refuse to do anything but your way. Which is exactly what is always the problem in pugs. People refusing to adjust and work as a team.

    Edit:
    You know what, I just read your signature, and you are absolutely disrespectful to the fullest extent. I will no longer be interacting with you. Good day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    The Blackest Night is a mitigation action. Thats literally all it does.
    Incorrect. TBN is a shield that consumes the same resource that the DRK uses for Edge/Flood of Shadow. At the same time, when properly used (i.e. when it breaks) it grants a Dark Arts proc which allows the DRK to use a single Edge/Flood of Shadow with no mana cost. This makes a properly used TBN a DPS-neutral ability. However, when used incorrectly (i.e. when it doesn't break) it is a DPS loss because you lose out on a cast of Edge/Flood; a direct loss of 500p (or 300p x number of enemies). Unfortunately for you, damage is king in XIV. This means that you don't get to just say that TBN is 'always' correctly used so long as it mitigates damage, and that's simply not how the skill is designed in the first place. Please learn how to properly make use of the job's toolkit before commenting on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    This is stunning. I have never read a response that could be more wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    The Blackest Night is a mitigation action. Thats literally all it does. If it mitigates any damage, it is not used incorrectly.
    Found one. Didnt take long at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    I dont even know how you people can come up with this type of nonsense.
    Honestly, this is what I thought when I read your OP and every rebuttal you’ve made. The fact that you lack so much self-awareness that you continue to insist you aren’t exaggerating the majority of your statements is baffling.
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