It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Vahlnir]

Every minor concern in the game could be argued against like this. "don't look at it" "don't use that feature" "don't do that content".

Considering this isn't a demand (mostly) and isn't particularly hard to do (for most implementations) I don't see why your particular reservation is a point against it other than "this will take time to do and I don't want that time to be spent on it" which IS perfectly valid.. but not particularly compelling in an MMO. Everyone has stuff they'd rather the devs spent time on instead of stuff they don't care about.

You are absolutely right. That doesn't change how I feel about it though. Although, I don't think any of us really know how much work things take except for the dev team. We can only guess. I have only stated my opinion on the matter, and others disagree with it. That's okay.

[Krotoan]

You are absolutely right. That doesn't change how I feel about it though. Although, I don't think any of us really know how much work things take except for the dev team. We can only guess.

Very true, I am not on the dev team, but I am basing my theory on how graphic mods seem to work on the game :change the local model and texture file and the game will simply use that instead. Confirming that the display choice is fully client side and merely a reference number. Something that should be easily toggleable. .. Should be.

I don't expect to change how you feel, and welcome your opinion of course.

[Genz]

Very true, I am not on the dev team, but I am basing my theory on how graphic mods seem to work on the game :change the local model and texture file and the game will simply use that instead. Confirming that the display choice is fully client side and merely a reference number. Something that should be easily toggleable. .. Should be.

Obviously display is a client-side thing, but which equipment is displayed for each character in sight has to be communicated by the server.
If the game server is already sending both equipped and glamoured equipment ID for each character in sight, then the OP suggestion can easily be done.
But currently there is no need to send them both for each character in sight and would be a waste of bandwidth (it's only needed when you actually right-click > check someone) so it's probable that it doesn't do it. OP suggestion would need the server to send more data, or for the server to juggle between equipped and glamoured depending on individual players choices.

[Krotoan]

Obviously display is a client-side thing, but which equipment is displayed for each character in sight has to be communicated by the server.
If the game server is already sending both equipped and glamoured equipment ID for each character in sight, then the OP suggestion can easily be done.
But currently there is no need to send them both for each character in sight and would be a waste of bandwidth (it's only needed when you actually right-click > check someone) so it's probable that it doesn't do it. OP suggestion would need the server to send more data, or for the server to juggle between equipped and glamoured depending on individual players choices.

Why would it need to send MORE data? All it would have to be is a toggle client side saying: Dont use the incoming data, instead use a preset glamour for everyone. No additional bandwidth needed. I don't believe there should be an option to glamour individual other people though since that ventures into possible griefing.
I know you probably haven't read the whole thread but we have covered it quite a bit.

[FelixFaust]

My concern would be if Development time would be wasted on a feature that a minuscule amount of players would use.

Adding to this thread, I will now validate the OP's argument by wearing skimpy glamour, out of sheer spite. I already do, and I look fabulous!

You are welcome. ^.~

[Joven]

My concern would be if Development time would be wasted on a feature that a minuscule amount of players would use.

Aside from the OP, and a few others, no one is clamoring for this feature. Hence, the wasted time on this. There has to be great demand for it. Would you want to have dev time and resources on something that clearly isn't going to be used that much, just to please a few players?

Yes, because wanting everyone to conform to my very specific tastes is a good thing to have the devs spend their time to implement, at the cost of something actually useful. /shrug

No different then the devs wasting their time having to remesh the bunny suit and wedding dress for all character models for a minuscule amount of players, but they managed to throw a fit loud enough to make it seem like more people were interested than there really was. The difference here is we're not insulting the devs by claiming they're "sexist" or "homophobic" or other overly used terms.

[Krotoan]

My concern would be if Development time would be wasted on a feature that a minuscule amount of players would use.

Adding to this thread, I will now validate the OP's argument by wearing skimpy glamour, out of sheer spite. I already do, and I look fabulous!

You are welcome. ^.~

Again, you are proving a point a lot of supporters of the feature have stated , some people use the glamour system to antagonize on purpose. Something it would be nice to have an answer to.

Fine, then.

It just doesn't feel right. Whenever someone comes up with the idea to hide player glamour, it is strictly for censorship reasons... and Yes, I am aware that it would be an option for a player to toggle on their side of the screen, but still. /shrug

Censorship is me telling you that you cannot wear something, at all. You have every right to wear whatever you want.

Customization is changing my personal experience to suit me. You have NO right to tell me what I have to or do not have to see.



You seem aware that there would be little to no effect on anyone.. yet persist in feeling it's persecution. Who's problem do you think that should be?

155 people liked the idea of making all their glamours thongs in response, 137 people liked the 1st No comment, at best if this was indictive of the playerbase at large your looking at a 51% for it vs 49% against, not great odds for a proposal and one that seemingly comes with nearly as much negative as it would praise.

and you don't think that HALF the playerbase wanting something is significant?
though this is the forum. A tiny disproportionate sample, so really.. hard to argue ANY sort of %, but given you're quoting those numbers...

But what we do know is there will never be teenage looking permanently playable character race due to how some members of the community will lewd them just look at Ryne/Alphinaud/Alisae, most likely this suggestion will fall in under the umbrella of no because of the few individuals who will use this tool to discrimate and you know damn well some people will, most won't just like most won't lewd teenagers but SE may not want to take that risk. Unfair to those that won't, yep, but that is what the state of affairs online games have become nowadays.

You're going to compare the option to make people appear as what could only be considered "background characters" to the risk of people basically making child porn?

... don't feel that's a bit incongruous?