It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Vahlnir]

If you actually followed the conversation and not just taken that out of context, then you'd know I was referring to a situation where someone is forced to be continually exposed to something they find troublesome and yes, in a far-flung, random chance, one-in-an-infinite time occurrence this could happen to someone who didn't like particular glamours.

My opinion on this remains the same. Do I really care if it's implemented at the end of the day? Probably not. I just feel that it is an unnecessary waste of dev time and resources when the solution is as simple as "don't look at it" or "don't pay attention to it". People CHOOSE to look at something, and they also choose to focus on it. They could choose to...not, if they wished but they don't. It's simpler in their mind to program it out of their sight.

[SturmChurro]

My opinion on this remains the same. Do I really care if it's implemented at the end of the day? Probably not. I just feel that it is an unnecessary waste of dev time and resources when the solution is as simple as "don't look at it" or "don't pay attention to it". People CHOOSE to look at something, and they also choose to focus on it. They could choose to...not, if they wished but they don't. It's simpler in their mind to program it out of their sight.

Yeah, people talking about wasting dev time and resources on making wedding dress fit male bodies, but then want a feature like this that would waste more dev time and resources.

[Krotoan]

My opinion on this remains the same. Do I really care if it's implemented at the end of the day? Probably not. I just feel that it is an unnecessary waste of dev time and resources when the solution is as simple as "don't look at it" or "don't pay attention to it". People CHOOSE to look at something, and they also choose to focus on it. They could choose to...not, if they wished but they don't. It's simpler in their mind to program it out of their sight.

Every minor concern in the game could be argued against like this. "don't look at it" "don't use that feature" "don't do that content".

Considering this isn't a demand (mostly) and isn't particularly hard to do (for most implementations) I don't see why your particular reservation is a point against it other than "this will take time to do and I don't want that time to be spent on it" which IS perfectly valid.. but not particularly compelling in an MMO. Everyone has stuff they'd rather the devs spent time on instead of stuff they don't care about.

And the correct thing to do would be to help them overcome that, not enable it further.

Why do I have to overcome my own personal tastes?

It's funny that you provided that because -- while it's not personally a Thing I Like (I prefer to wear more complex ensembles), the game allows you to wear it, so it's not my place to demand that the devs allow me to hide it when I can literally just turn the camera away for free if it really bothers me that much. Which it doesn't, and I usually just look at people and move on. No reason to get triggered over a bikini. Not sure why some people are just so upset by stuff like that, that they need an adult to cover their eyes for them

Very few people are being "upset". The glut of people on this thread would just rather not have their experience "ruined" or be yanked out of their story by "weird" glamours. Nobody is really demanding anything, at best we are saying "If the devs would do this, we would use it".

[Vahlnir]

Every minor concern in the game could be argued against like this. "don't look at it" "don't use that feature" "don't do that content".

Considering this isn't a demand (mostly) and isn't particularly hard to do (for most implementations) I don't see why your particular reservation is a point against it other than "this will take time to do and I don't want that time to be spent on it" which IS perfectly valid.. but not particularly compelling in an MMO. Everyone has stuff they'd rather the devs spent time on instead of stuff they don't care about.

You are absolutely right. That doesn't change how I feel about it though. Although, I don't think any of us really know how much work things take except for the dev team. We can only guess. I have only stated my opinion on the matter, and others disagree with it. That's okay.

[Krotoan]

You are absolutely right. That doesn't change how I feel about it though. Although, I don't think any of us really know how much work things take except for the dev team. We can only guess.

Very true, I am not on the dev team, but I am basing my theory on how graphic mods seem to work on the game :change the local model and texture file and the game will simply use that instead. Confirming that the display choice is fully client side and merely a reference number. Something that should be easily toggleable. .. Should be.

I don't expect to change how you feel, and welcome your opinion of course.

[Genz]

Very true, I am not on the dev team, but I am basing my theory on how graphic mods seem to work on the game :change the local model and texture file and the game will simply use that instead. Confirming that the display choice is fully client side and merely a reference number. Something that should be easily toggleable. .. Should be.

Obviously display is a client-side thing, but which equipment is displayed for each character in sight has to be communicated by the server.
If the game server is already sending both equipped and glamoured equipment ID for each character in sight, then the OP suggestion can easily be done.
But currently there is no need to send them both for each character in sight and would be a waste of bandwidth (it's only needed when you actually right-click > check someone) so it's probable that it doesn't do it. OP suggestion would need the server to send more data, or for the server to juggle between equipped and glamoured depending on individual players choices.

[Krotoan]

Obviously display is a client-side thing, but which equipment is displayed for each character in sight has to be communicated by the server.
If the game server is already sending both equipped and glamoured equipment ID for each character in sight, then the OP suggestion can easily be done.
But currently there is no need to send them both for each character in sight and would be a waste of bandwidth (it's only needed when you actually right-click > check someone) so it's probable that it doesn't do it. OP suggestion would need the server to send more data, or for the server to juggle between equipped and glamoured depending on individual players choices.

Why would it need to send MORE data? All it would have to be is a toggle client side saying: Dont use the incoming data, instead use a preset glamour for everyone. No additional bandwidth needed. I don't believe there should be an option to glamour individual other people though since that ventures into possible griefing.
I know you probably haven't read the whole thread but we have covered it quite a bit.

[FelixFaust]

My concern would be if Development time would be wasted on a feature that a minuscule amount of players would use.

Adding to this thread, I will now validate the OP's argument by wearing skimpy glamour, out of sheer spite. I already do, and I look fabulous!

You are welcome. ^.~