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  1. #41
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Thankfully, they all look like a glowing anglerfish stretched over a low polygon weapon, so I don't feel pressured to do more than the 3 I already have.
    I mean, no one forces you to get or use the fully completed weapons; I got Xiphias specifically because I liked the model and didn't bother upgrading it beyond that because I like it as is. It's the only reason why I ever stepped foot in Eureka (except to go back after to get the Tyrannosaur mount ). I think it's important to look at Relic weapons as committing time to get something you like, not wasting time getting something you don't like because you feel like you have to.
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  2. #42
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    Tiffah Lockhart
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    Dragoon Lv 82
    At least for the moment, the current iteration of Eureka is ugly as sin. I don't feel any motivation to labor that hard on something so hideous.
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  3. #43
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    eureka seems to be designed like old school mmorpg where everything is solo grind or get a party and grind until you drop, complete with exp penalty when you die, so its definitely not for everyone yeah.
    Eureka is an homage to FFXI in more ways than one.

    That said, anyone who is saying that it's currently a grind doesn't know what they're talking about. It's been nerfed into the ground. I completed Pyros in a single week of casual solo play. Pagos took a bit longer, but it wasn't crazy hard.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 07-11-2020 at 06:03 AM.

  4. #44
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Sage Lv 90
    I'd gladly go in again / more if I didn't have to be synced down.

    No other relic content requires this.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. #45
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    Puremallace's Avatar
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Eureka a glorified XP grindfest. Anyone saying they like it has no issue with Korean MMO's that have remarkably similar philosophies that kill MMO's in the US within one month of launch. The actual content is behind a huge grindy wall thhat has severe penalties that some like.

    As long as the philosophies of Eureka are kept there then I can care less if some masochist in this thread have fun grinding 60 levels in that place chasing NM's but if you ever apply it outside of Eureka I would unsub because that place is torture.

    To the people saying "well I see a lot of people there doing it so it cannot be that bad" then I say "well I see 4 times as many people standing AFK in Limsa Lominsa so clearly that content is more fun then Eureka".
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    Last edited by Puremallace; 07-12-2020 at 03:26 AM.

  6. #46
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    There's a big difference between a game as a whole being based around a grind and a portion of a game being focused around a grind. Only Pagos was overly tedious and that was remedied quite quickly.

    A lot of people burned themselves out on Eureka because they simply did not pace themselves or recognise that it was a long term project, not something to rush in a matter of days.
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  7. #47
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There's a big difference between a game as a whole being based around a grind and a portion of a game being focused around a grind. Only Pagos was overly tedious and that was remedied quite quickly.

    A lot of people burned themselves out on Eureka because they simply did not pace themselves or recognise that it was a long term project, not something to rush in a matter of days.
    The main issue I have with it is that they didn't devise an alternative route. The nerfs help but it's just not the same. At least they're future-proofing the Bozja instance better.
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  8. #48
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Eureka a glorified XP grindfest. Anyone saying they like it has no issue with Korean MMO's that have remarkably similar philosophies that kill MMO's in the US within one month of launch.
    You seem to be on a Eureka-themed rampage, so I'll say to you what I said to you in the other thread about Eureka: Your experiences are not universal. I don't play Korean MMOs like that, but I felt the time I spent in Eureka was worth what I got out of it.

    You really don't need to keep speaking for everyone on whether they like Eureka or what other things they must clearly enjoy putting up with.

    (Also, as a note, the phrase is "I couldn't care less". "I could care less" implies you do care because, well, you could care less. Just saying.)
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  9. #49
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Eureka a glorified XP grindfest. Anyone saying they like it has no issue with Korean MMO's that have remarkably similar philosophies that kill MMO's in the US within one month of launch. The actual content is behind a huge grindy wall thhat has severe penalties that some like.

    As long as the philosophies of Eureka are kept there then I can care less if some masochist in this thread have fun grinding 60 levels in that place chasing NM's but if you ever apply it outside of Eureka I would unsub because that place is torture.

    To the people saying "well I see a lot of people there doing it so it cannot be that bad" then I say "well I see 4 times as many people standing AFK in Limsa Lominsa so clearly that content is more fun then Eureka".
    Oh poor thing you didn't likey. It's ok you don't have too.
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  10. #50
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    You seem to be on a Eureka-themed rampage, so I'll say to you what I said to you in the other thread about Eureka: Your experiences are not universal. I don't play Korean MMOs like that, but I felt the time I spent in Eureka was worth what I got out of it.

    You really don't need to keep speaking for everyone on whether they like Eureka or what other things they must clearly enjoy putting up with.

    (Also, as a note, the phrase is "I couldn't care less". "I could care less" implies you do care because, well, you could care less. Just saying.)
    Yeah. I didn't really like it overall but...I'm certainly not going to try to speak for everyone, nor should they (or anyone really). Some like it, some don't. Such is life.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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