Quote Originally Posted by DWolfwood View Post
You were the one referencing E4S. Conveniently omitting E8S which has a ludicrous higher amount of PLD than any other tank.

As for Ultimates, yeah I'm not gonna argue TBN makes DRK quite strong in terms of mitigation for those fights, but this isn't about that. Of course the best healers can work with LD and have done so since day one. WAR also used to be able to tank just fine in 4.0 and 2.0, but clearly needed changes as well.

Again, all the tanks need changes. LD is just what DRK needs fixed and it's been that way for 5 years.


Edit -

E8S clear numbers:

PLD - 6162
DRK - 4627
GNB - 3549
WAR - 3048

TEA clear numbers:

PLD - 599
DRK - 561
WAR - 209
GNB - 190

That said, again, this is a poor way of adjusting skills and it's the best way to ensure broken skills never get fixed.
It was a counter argument towards your claim that GNB and PLD are the best tank, which claiming thats the reason DRK need the fix of the not broken LD.

GNB is never ever even close to DRK in term of best tank, PLD only best at OT and is actually BAD at MT, which DRK excel at.

While the number of clear parse may not be the best mean adjusting skill, it is a statistic to be accounted for.

And again GNB is not the best tank, and you claim is without reason.

QUOTE=Lyth;5378049]You don't get scored based on how much damage you mitigate, any more than you get scored based on how much enmity you generate. You either live, or you die. That's why invulns trivialise mitigation checks. You can't even begin to discuss anything else until that's out of the way.[/QUOTE]

Then no point in discussing LD because all fight is surviveable without it.