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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    ok. if you say so.

    I should propably defend my self a bit more, it never goes good when i leave stuff for interpretation. You say that what im saying is generalized , and an appeal to authority fallacy , what im saying is that i take more seriously arguments bred from knowledge , as in arguments that were made from more than 10 mins of gameplay or thought , you call it authority fallacy, well i can call your stand point anti-intellectualism.
    Obviously nothing appeals to everyone , which is why we are having this conversation , the problem is that since blue already has a fan base be it small or large ,again going by stuff that i watched back then in those threads , why would you try to cater to the people who ,according to you are having just balance discussions, keep calling the job garbage. Wouldn't you want to appeal to the fanbase you created?
    You will tell me they should listen to the majority but look how other jobs turned out. the whole healer and tank role turned like this to accommodate the skill of the player base as a whole , to become more ACCESSIBLE , and what happened is it lost the most dedicated of their playerbase some which have left.
    In the end unless you give me an actual argument as to why it should change or if it is worth changing then we will go nowhere, instead you have opted to just taking the piss.
    Straw manning my pointing out of appeal to authority. If someones argument after 10 mins is demonstrably wrong it should be argued against as such, but just saying the devs know more is not an arguement. However someone who has a thought after 10 mins can still have valid and appropriate feedback.

    Im not actually someone who advocates it be "changed" per say, but this was not the point of this thread. My stance is that there is no arguement other than "rescources" why a limited and unlimited blu cannot exist alongside each other. Current iteration of BLU already has the framework of a fully functioning level 60 dps, and if you subtract mimicry and final sting it has a balanced dps output as well. I think they should listen the majority in the sense that a form of blu for endgame should exist, i dont want to take away what some people find fun despite my own feelings on the content. I dunno whete youve found this echo chamber of people just calling it garbage but in the threads ive participated in theres plenty of healthy discussion as to how it could work. Your arguments about tanks and healers is imteresting, however as a regular on these forums I dont think I remember people asking for how they exist today other than in the ast crowd, the majority that square seems to accommodate to seems to be rather the silent kind rather than whats said here. And once again you seem to be implying a backwards agumentum ad popularum (appeal to masses), where you are saying the masses are wrong inherently based on past events, which is very wrong just from an argumentation standpoint.

    You should also chill my dude, the reason i wasnt giving you my arguments was because this was not the thread for it, and if pointing out the problems with your arguments is "taking the piss" then so be it.

    I realise I just broke what i said earlier about not replying to, which is a shame but i guess im bored.

    Feel free to go through the threads, there was a good one a month or so ago, but trying to go through the main BLU for duty finder thread could take you a while
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    Last edited by ReiMakoto; 07-07-2020 at 08:47 PM.
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