Endgame content is too stressfull and difficult

[Tint]

The problem is not only the missing mid-tier challenge, but a big problem lies within the tomestone gear. It is so good that it makes every other content except savage raids obsolete. Why investing time to get the normal mode raid gear, relic gear or 24-man raid gear?
Just run expert roulette and you are good.

The whole (gear) progression in this game centers around savage raiding. Normal mode gear is obsolete on release because of crafted gear. And then you go into the savage raid and when you don't get loot you can buy the tomestone gear as a safety net.
In the odd numbered patches people can "catch up" with the gear. But catching up for what?

This whole concept doesn't keep in mind that there are lots of people who have no interest to enter savage raids. Ever.

And the content these people are interested in does nothing for your character progression. You can't get better by playing this content, you just are getting new glamour gear while you are actually using the freebies from expert roulette.

The progression leads to savage raids and nothing else. No wonder all kinds of people end there even if they don't have interest in doing that content. There simply is nothing else meaningfull to do.

[Billythepancake]

The problem is not only the missing mid-tier challenge, but a big problem lies within the tomestone gear. It is so good that it makes every other content except savage raids obsolete. Why investing time to get the normal mode raid gear, relic gear or 24-man raid gear?
Just run expert roulette and you are good.

The whole (gear) progression in this game centers around savage raiding. Normal mode gear is obsolete on release because of crafted gear. And then you go into the savage raid and when you don't get loot you can buy the tomestone gear as a safety net.
In the odd numbered patches people can "catch up" with the gear. But catching up for what?

This whole concept doesn't keep in mind that there are lots of people who have no interest to enter savage raids. Ever.

And the content these people are interested in does nothing for your character progression. You can't get better by playing this content, you just are getting new glamour gear while you are actually using the freebies from expert roulette.

The progression leads to savage raids and nothing else. No wonder all kinds of people end there even if they don't have interest in doing that content. There simply is nothing else meaningfull to do.

If you have 0 interest in savage then the gear dropped by savage raids should mean nothing to you. They literally do nothing but help you push parses on savage, if that is not something you care about, then bis means nothing, especially since a lot of regular content gets ilevel synced anyway.

[ForteNightshade]

If she was 100% right we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.

Of course we will. There will always be people who both want the endgame gear from Savage yet don't want it to be too difficult. That defeats the entire point of Savage. It exists to be a challenge, which it currently is. If it's still too much, you have EX Primals to get your feet wet. While I don't enjoy certain things this tier in particular, if you reduced the difficult much more, what's even the point? It's essentially complaining about a game having a Very Hard mode because you can't beat it.

[JamieRose]

Of course we will. There will always be people who both want the endgame gear from Savage yet don't want it to be too difficult. That defeats the entire point of Savage. It exists to be a challenge, which it currently is. If it's still too much, you have EX Primals to get your feet wet. While I don't enjoy certain things this tier in particular, if you reduced the difficult much more, what's even the point? It's essentially complaining about a game having a Very Hard mode because you can't beat it.

I'm running out of things to do and EX/Savage is too stressful and difficult.

There's your point. Whine and bitch all you like about how you wanna feel special because your static clears E8S with highest damage numbers and your pointless parsing and all that other garbage minutiae that should have died with World of Warcraft.

We're 4 months out from the last major content patch with still another month to go. Doing the same boring content over and over again is putting me off this game. But the stress levels involved in raiding Savage and EX content are equally off putting. And the stress is even more when you're dealing with [Learning] parties who are generally filled with people who screw up so hard and so often that you're left literally wondering if they're doing it on purpose.

I've tried to find other things to do. I can't get a house because the suits decided to turn off auto-demolish. Diadem is boring. Eureka is boring. Leveling old jobs means doing the MSQ Roulette over and over and that's incredible boring! And I'd soon slash my wrists with a rusty fishing knife than subject myself to the god awful PvP in this game.

Get over yourself! You're not special just because you find endgame content easy.

[Flay_wind]

I'm running out of things to do and EX/Savage is too stressful and difficult.

There's your point. Whine and bitch all you like about how you wanna feel special because your static clears E8S with highest damage numbers and your pointless parsing and all that other garbage minutiae that should have died with World of Warcraft.

We're 4 months out from the last major content patch with still another month to go. Doing the same boring content over and over again is putting me off this game. But the stress levels involved in raiding Savage and EX content are equally off putting. And the stress is even more when you're dealing with [Learning] parties who are generally filled with people who screw up so hard and so often that you're left literally wondering if they're doing it on purpose.

I've tried to find other things to do. I can't get a house because the suits decided to turn off auto-demolish. Diadem is boring. Eureka is boring. Leveling old jobs means doing the MSQ Roulette over and over and that's incredible boring! And I'd soon slash my wrists with a rusty fishing knife than subject myself to the god awful PvP in this game.

Get over yourself! You're not special just because you find endgame content easy.

Well, fwiw, Yoshi himself said that's it's okay to unsub for periods of time between the patches.

And honestly you're the problem. You do not want to get better, you want everything to be handed to you on a silver platter.
Also i remember you bitсhing about Masked Carnivale 29 "OMG IT'S TOO HARD! NERF ASAP! I CAN'T CLEAR IT AND IT'S BAD GAME DESIGN!"
Sorry, but if the content is too hard/stressful for you, then you either get better (which you obviously refuse to do) or you do not do this content and find something else to do. If there's nothing else you want to do, then go to my first sentence and read it again.

[HeulGDarian]

Well, fwiw, Yoshi himself said that's it's okay to unsub for periods of time between the patches.

And honestly you're the problem. You do not want to get better, you want everything to be handed to you on a silver platter.
Also i remember you bithing about Masked Carnivale 29 "OMG IT'S TOO HARD! NERF ASAP! I CAN'T CLEAR IT AND IT'S BAD GAME DESIGN!"
Sorry, but if the content is too hard/stressful for you, then you either get better (which you obviously refuse to do) or you do not do this content and find something else to do. If there's nothing else you want to do, then go to my first sentence and read it again.

man i got exams so obviously ive unsubbed rn , was bored in there anyways was trying to prog e6s and do mentor rlt grind but gridning was impossible with my sleep schedule and e6s wore me off , i can wipe so many times at conflag before saying screw it, and its not like i can do the fight perfectly forever at some point i started been the one making mistakes and if there is anything that tilts me its me playing bad not others, so i simply stopped went ahead to play doom. the most feelsbadman is that i forget that i like difficult games so when im like i feel like playing something more chill i dont have anything =w=", its either getting reckt in crash bandicoot , Doom in nightmare difficulty , hat in time Soul contracts , or devil may cry .

[Payotz]

man i got exams so obviously ive unsubbed rn , was bored in there anyways was trying to prog e6s and do mentor rlt grind but gridning was impossible with my sleep schedule and e6s wore me off , i can wipe so many times at conflag before saying screw it, and its not like i can do the fight perfectly forever at some point i started been the one making mistakes and if there is anything that tilts me its me playing bad not others, so i simply stopped went ahead to play doom. the most feelsbadman is that i forget that i like difficult games so when im like i feel like playing something more chill i dont have anything =w=", its either getting reckt in crash bandicoot , Doom in nightmare difficulty , hat in time Soul contracts , or devil may cry .

Honestly if you're still interested, i'd try and find a static. There might be a few discord servers around for your datacenter that's for recruiting for statics.
Not all statics are hardcore either, some are casual, and even super casual.
All sorts of folks to play with out there.

[HeulGDarian]

I'm running out of things to do and EX/Savage is too stressful and difficult.

There's your point. Whine and bitch all you like about how you wanna feel special because your static clears E8S with highest damage numbers and your pointless parsing and all that other garbage minutiae that should have died with World of Warcraft.

We're 4 months out from the last major content patch with still another month to go. Doing the same boring content over and over again is putting me off this game. But the stress levels involved in raiding Savage and EX content are equally off putting. And the stress is even more when you're dealing with [Learning] parties who are generally filled with people who screw up so hard and so often that you're left literally wondering if they're doing it on purpose.

I've tried to find other things to do. I can't get a house because the suits decided to turn off auto-demolish. Diadem is boring. Eureka is boring. Leveling old jobs means doing the MSQ Roulette over and over and that's incredible boring! And I'd soon slash my wrists with a rusty fishing knife than subject myself to the god awful PvP in this game.

Get over yourself! You're not special just because you find endgame content easy.

and if they nerfed those things it would be exactly the same kind of boring, so cause you are bored you would rather they make the only content people dont find boring be boring. look if you are simply bored instead of asking they take content from others why dont you ask hey i want more content that isnt boring. Literally this is something i can get behind asking for more content from the devs, even i currently only have astrope farming to do if i simply want to chill away from pf. There you go something that doesnt screw others and its actually relatable.

[Payotz]

I'm running out of things to do and EX/Savage is too stressful and difficult.

There's your point. Whine and bitch all you like about how you wanna feel special because your static clears E8S with highest damage numbers and your pointless parsing and all that other garbage minutiae that should have died with World of Warcraft.

We're 4 months out from the last major content patch with still another month to go. Doing the same boring content over and over again is putting me off this game. But the stress levels involved in raiding Savage and EX content are equally off putting. And the stress is even more when you're dealing with [Learning] parties who are generally filled with people who screw up so hard and so often that you're left literally wondering if they're doing it on purpose.

I've tried to find other things to do. I can't get a house because the suits decided to turn off auto-demolish. Diadem is boring. Eureka is boring. Leveling old jobs means doing the MSQ Roulette over and over and that's incredible boring! And I'd soon slash my wrists with a rusty fishing knife than subject myself to the god awful PvP in this game.

Get over yourself! You're not special just because you find endgame content easy.

Imagine being this entitled.

That boredom you're feeling now is what literally most raiders feel once they've finished the tier. Let me repeat.
That boredom you're feeling now is what literally most raiders feel once they've finished the tier.

And it's not just you that's feeling it, it's literally all of us. It sucks but there's a pandemic going on and frankly, as a working and productive member of society, I can understand the delays. It's not like they purposefully made Covid so they can slack off. I'd rather have their QA and devs fix the issues before some major fuckfest happens when everyone jumps in the 24 man.

Do what most people do when they're bored of the game, Unsub and take a break.
Play a new game, or read a book or watch a movie or talk with friends or something. You are allowed to have a life outside of the game.
Hell, play a new MMO. Play one of the other Final Fantasy games if you like. You don't even have a house so you can just unsub and then come back on August or something.

You're not special just because you want endgame content to be literally just Normal Raids and Normal Trials.

[MistakeNot]

I'm running out of things to do and EX/Savage is too stressful and difficult.

Take a break and play something else until next patch then.
You are allowed, even encouraged, to do that.