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    Has OP made any posts on this thread since starting it?
    I think we've devolved into bickering amongst ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    I never said it needed to be outright nerfed, that's you putting words in my mouth. The problem is that the content is stress inducing due to the low margin of error and people like you who fly off the handle when someone messes up. We suggested that an intermediate step would be helpful and you and your buddies balked at that.

    People like you make these forums practically unusable because every time someone like me or the OP brings up a valid concern you and your gestapo rush in to shame us like you're playing a game of Whack-A-Mole.

    And you call me entitled.
    Practically unusable? You expected positive responses when you told people to get over themselves? This ain't an no echo chamber; you poured down the gasoline and the fire exploded towards you.

    The content just may not be for you. So what?Just like Ultimates aren't for me. You have plenty of content in the game to keep you otherwise. If you find the content so damn boring, then quit and resub! People do it all the time!

    Savage and Extremes are meant to test players and their abilities! It's supposed to be stressful and infuriating and that's why I enjoy it! I like to push myself. Other players just may not like that. Not EVERYTHING needs to be catered towards EVERYONE.

    What exactly is the intermediate step you are looking for? Like Expert? I mean, Extreme can be about as intermediate as you can get.
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    Perhaps an unpopular opinion:
    I actually wish end game fights were harder but shorter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Perhaps an unpopular opinion:
    I actually wish end game fights were harder but shorter.
    i have thought about such a thing as well but at the same time , its kind of impossible cause you know they either cut down on how many mechanics there are or/and how much time you have to react to them
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    I made the jump to endgame recently. I was petrified of what might happen, I am not the best of players and I don't think my fc took me seriously when I first said I wanted to get into it. But I built up my armor, practiced my Rotation, watched a guide and we went in as a fc to Titania, with a few other members who were new to Ex as well. We had a blast. Next I tried Innocence with a practice pug group and cleared it with them. Next will be Hades.

    Now I know that I am a long way from end game as the Extremes I have done is old content and Savage is a step up, but isnt that the whole point, it's meant to be difficult and for me I get so much joy once I do clear I am now hooked on it. Me and a few members were so excited when we cleared Titania we were ready to move on to the next Extreme. Until we were told to hold our horses and just do a few reruns of Titania.

    TLDR: the joy is in the difficulty of endgame
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    i have thought about such a thing as well but at the same time , its kind of impossible cause you know they either cut down on how many mechanics there are or/and how much time you have to react to them
    I dunno man, in the current Savage raids there are plenty of times where only one or two roles are handling a mechanic.
    It'd go a long way if everyone had something to do more consistently.
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    That would make things harder most certaintly, but i think puging would become impossible ,the thing that comes to mind is gavel where to progress everyone has to do a different mech which are split into different categories depending the role ,something that existed at a time where the majority of the raiding scene was dead. difficulty is definitely a tight rope the devs have to tread carefully, and i think such a difficulty upgrade would be a repeat of the past if it came suddenly , maybe at some point the difficulty curve can allow for such fights , but as it stands people are just not good or willing enough for it and maybe they will never be.
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    Last edited by HeulGDarian; 07-07-2020 at 03:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
    but as it stands people are just not good or willing enough for it and maybe they will never be.
    I suppose this thread is a testament to that, huh...
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    If you run out of things to do and dont enjoy savage content, just dont play or take a break until new patch. Even the devs encourage casual play where you take breaks and it is visible from the design.
    Savage content is meant to be challenging and it's directed towards certain type of players, if you are not that, it is ok, nobody should judge you for that. 490 gear is fairly accessible and is more than enough for current available content in the game.

    No need to ruin the game for people that are interested in that kind of content just because it is not suitable for you
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