Leaving duty debuff issue

[SnowX]

I was in a duty for over 15 minutes and left because the raid group didn't get the mechanics of 1 of the edenverse fights...the 3rd 1(iconoclasm?). I'm a pve mentor and have done the fights multiple times and never "lost" one i joined. Today was different.

I explained the mechanics to the 20 people(i'm exaggerating) that seemed new. We died about 4 or 5 times in the fight so even after I explained the mechanics I decided to leave, mind you it's after the 15 minute mark of the raid group.

To my shock, i got slapped with a 30 minute debuff. I left a very crappy party that couldn't make it passed the dps check because the dps kept dying from the umbra/umbral light switching. Remember, I explained how to do it and they were still dying. This wasn't the savage version either.

I think us PvE mentors shouldn't be subject to this punishment when leaving a group. There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave. Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

You're yourself to blame for leaving the raid. And because of people like you, you don't have to wonder why a lot of people don't like mentors. In addition, it is known since 2. 0 that you get a penalty if you leave the content first or do not accept content several times. For mentors, the penalties should be higher, after all, mentors should support and not run away like a snapped child.

[Caitlinzulu]

This is actually troll level of disgusting frop op.
And this coming from someone who qualified as mentor from day one it was here but never wore the crown.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Ignore them, OP.

Most are moved by some misguided vendetta against mentors and regard them as slaves who should have no rights whatsoever. The toxic epithome of the "coddling bad gameplay" mentality - force mentors to carry the other players no matter what, even if it's glaringly obvious the duty won't be cleared until timing out.

P.S.: if people don't want to learn, trying the whole duty time won't change a thing.

[Goji1639]

Ignore them, OP.

Most are moved by some misguided vendetta against mentors and regard them as slaves who should have no rights whatsoever. The toxic epithome of the "coddling bad gameplay" mentality - force mentors to carry the other players no matter what, even if it's glaringly obvious the duty won't be cleared until timing out.

P.S.: if people don't want to learn, trying the whole duty time won't change a thing.

Not sure why any of this means that mentors should be immune to the abandon debuff. They're allowed to leave if a group is hopeless, same as everyone else, and they should get the same penalty.

Honestly, they should probably get a harsher penalty, because they're getting special rewards on the assumption that they're going to do whatever they can to help. If you want mentor rewards you should be expected to be more committed to helping than normal players would be.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Not sure why any of this means that mentors should be immune to the abandon debuff. They're allowed to leave if a group is hopeless, same as everyone else, and they should get the same penalty.

Honestly, they should probably get a harsher penalty, because they're getting special rewards on the assumption that they're going to do whatever they can to help. If you want mentor rewards you should be expected to be more committed to helping than normal players would be.

Those "special rewards" are a mount that will take you 5 years to obtain, if you only do Mentor roulette once a day. It's one of the worser grinds this game has to offer, and you still want to make things harder...

Edit: Also, leaving sooner means no daily rewards and not getting any closer to the mount, so I don't get this whole hateboner on forcing mentors to spend 90 minutes on an unwinnable duty.

[Goji1639]

Those "special rewards" are a mount that will take you 5 years to obtain, if you only do Mentor roulette once a day. It's one of the worser grinds this game has to offer, and you still want to make things harder...

Never looked into the rewards, but yea, I'm still not sure why you agree that mentors shouldn't get the same debuff everyone else does for abandoning.

I also still think it would be reasonable for mentors to get a worse debuff for abandoning. Whether you think the reward is worth it or not is beside the point, you're still being rewarded on the assumption that you're going to help people. A mentor abandoning people he essentially agreed to help is different than a regular player abandoning.

[SnowX]

Those "special rewards" are a mount that will take you 5 years to obtain, if you only do Mentor roulette once a day. It's one of the worser grinds this game has to offer, and you still want to make things harder...

Edit: Also, leaving sooner means no daily rewards and not getting any closer to the mount, so I don't get this whole hateboner on forcing mentors to spend 90 minutes on an unwinnable duty.

The OP wants there to be no more punishment for mentors because they don't want the content anymore and run away. That's what this is about. The penalties for mentors who simply disappear should be higher. Is that so hard to understand?

[Bsrking5]

Theres no way to tell a player is doing a mentor roulette for sure, which is the only mentor related bonus so y'all saying punish them worse makes no sense. They should be allowed to leave like everyone else, with the same rules as everyone else.

[iilan]

Theres no way to tell a player is doing a mentor roulette for sure, which is the only mentor related bonus so y'all saying punish them worse makes no sense. They should be allowed to leave like everyone else, with the same rules as everyone else.

If you have the crown on, even in just a trials roulette, the assumption is mentorship, though. Take the crown off if you don't want this hypothetical mentor penalty. You're only required to wear it for mentor roulette.

[MsMisato]

Ignore them, OP.

Most are moved by some misguided vendetta against mentors and regard them as slaves who should have no rights whatsoever. The toxic epithome of the "coddling bad gameplay" mentality - force mentors to carry the other players no matter what, even if it's glaringly obvious the duty won't be cleared until timing out.

P.S.: if people don't want to learn, trying the whole duty time won't change a thing.

I agree mentors are not there to carry but simply put, mentors should not above the rules that all the other players are bound to. They could have simply either vote to abandon or vote to kick. If you choose to join a PUG, you already should be aware it can be a learning pain and may not result in a clear especially in higher content. Of course if you leave before voting and such that's on you and just take the penalty and go do something else for a moment. simple as that.