Leaving duty debuff issue

[Violet_Galaxy]

I was in a duty for over 15 minutes and left because the raid group didn't get the mechanics of 1 of the edenverse fights...the 3rd 1(iconoclasm?). I'm a pve mentor and have done the fights multiple times and never "lost" one i joined. Today was different.

I explained the mechanics to the 20 people(i'm exaggerating) that seemed new. We died about 4 or 5 times in the fight so even after I explained the mechanics I decided to leave, mind you it's after the 15 minute mark of the raid group.

To my shock, i got slapped with a 30 minute debuff. I left a very crappy party that couldn't make it passed the dps check because the dps kept dying from the umbra/umbral light switching. Remember, I explained how to do it and they were still dying. This wasn't the savage version either.

I think us PvE mentors shouldn't be subject to this punishment when leaving a group. There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave. Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

Your biggest problem is thinking you're special because you have a crown next to your name.

[Morningstar1337]

I feel like the point of mentorship, one that flies over the heads of too many is that they are supposed to help spouts learn content, not necessarily clear it and that the use of carrots like the mounts from mentor roulette are antitheical to that goal and I would go as far as yto say that it failed because of said incentives. As such I think that adding more preferential treatment would do more harm than good.

[Goji1639]

Giving mentors free reign to bail on their party REALLY defeats the purpose. That's basically encouraging all the most impatient people in the game to become mentors.

If anything a mentor who bails on his group should get a longer debuff; because he's already getting special rewards on the assumption that he's sticking around to help. Being a mentor is agreeing to teach new players; even the bad ones.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Now if they would just bar people from queuing any roulettes for 24 hours if they bail on one because its annoying to have to wait around for replacements because someone didn't like the duty that pulled from it.

[Gemina]

OP, it shouldn't have to be told to you that when you join a duty, you are bound by it. As just as you feel your reasons were for leaving, the circumstances that initiate a duty lockout don't take those into consideration. Only the fact that you chose to leave a duty you were bound to.

Put simply; this first time your advice has failed to get a group through is because you gave up. And you bailed on your teammates in the process. The penalty is not only fine as is, it was well deserved. Did you even try initiating a vote abandon? I'm guessing you left a lot out of your OP. I won't presume to know anything as I was not there, but from my experience it has never been the game's mechanics that cause full abandons, or players to leave in NM encounters. It is usually a lack of communication, or the words that are being exchanged are combative.

All I can advise is chalk it up as a learning experience. Stop bailing. It really is quite infuriating when players do this.

[SturmChurro]

No you shouldn't. I've lost count how many times I've seen "Mentors" bail from a group when it's content they don't want to do.

The OP was joking when they made the statement, right? Like this thread has gotta be joke.

[Rezef]

Well there are a lot of players that abandon when they see the tag Extreme and I can't really blame them for not wanting to play sth that can take so much time and in the end it ends into failure but that's what we signed for when taking the crown. Thus I think that if a mentor leaves from mentor queue they should have at least 1h of ban from DF.

[KageTokage]

Mentors don't deserve special privileges and I say that as one that's been actively trying to live up to the name since 3.x.

If a group seems genuinely hopeless, the best thing to do is vote abandon and hope they actually go through with it.

[Rongway]

There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave.

Maybe they could have done it in the next 10~20 minutes and you would have been able to queue again sooner than you could after bailing.
But you didn't stick around to find out, so 30 min lockout.

Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

If you can't commit to the full duty timer, you shouldn't click Join, and you probably shouldn't pretend you're a mentor.

[Shanir]

I think us PvE mentors shouldn't be subject to this punishment when leaving a group. There was no way we were gonna do it so i left. We get punished in the raid group because we get frustrated and then get even more frustrated when we get slapped with this 30 min debuff after we leave. Mentors should be immune to these penalties period.

That is the most narcissistic thing I have ever heard.