will we get Garleans Race?

[Lium]

Even then, there are only 2 confirmed cases of the experimental procedure. Zeros and Fordola. And one of those was a Highlander.

it's been a while, but remind me what that big facility was where we rescued Krile from? Seems like there were lots of people being experimented on there. Or were those just people with the Echo that the empire had captured?

And then there was all that stuff we saw while playing as Estinien, and of course the Ruby Weapon. They weren't Resonant but it implies that the empire is doing all sorts of wicked stuff. If the devs ever wanted the Garleans in the game as a playable race, there's ample ways for them to do it.

Look at all the lore breaking stuff the LOTRO developers did in order to get fireball-slinging elves in their game during a time period where there shouldn't have been any. But they knew that would sell. Never underestimate the power of the dollar/euro/pound/yen.

[MikkoAkure]

Yes, but intent and outcome were not the same, this happens in experimental research. What we ended up with were people who could manipulate aether enough to detect changes in it, making them far more effective combatants, and the ability to resist death akin to what the Echo does for us, or to how the Ascians cheat death, but it did not succeed in allowing the Garleans to use traditional magics.

So that being the case, the workings of Zenos as a samurai mean that at least that job does not manipulate aether. And considering that if other jobs are manipulating it just to make themselves stronger/faster, the Garleans are naturally stronger than all the other races of Eorzea, and could be argued not to have need to manipulate aether to augment their already naturally high abilities.

According to the lore books, everything involving ki is aetherial manipulation which would mean that ninja and samurai are more magical than some of the other DoW. Considering how Zenos

Pours aether into a borrowed and broken katana, uses magical barriers, and can teleport,

the resonant is more than the Echo. As I stated before.

[Nestama]

it's been a while, but remind me what that big facility was where we rescued Krile from? Seems like there were lots of people being experimented on there. Or were those just people with the Echo that the empire had captured?

And then there was all that stuff we saw while playing as Estinien, and of course the Ruby Weapon. They weren't Resonant but it implies that the empire is doing all sorts of wicked stuff. If the devs ever wanted the Garleans in the game as a playable race, there's ample ways for them to do it.

Look at all the lore breaking stuff the LOTRO developers did in order to get fireball-slinging elves in their game during a time period where there shouldn't have been any. But they knew that would sell. Never underestimate the power of the dollar/euro/pound/yen.

Castrum Abania is kinda rife with lore, with the second boss being the most interesting and relevant for the "can Garleans be playable before a certain point?" argument: Number XXIV is the 24th attempt at making a pure-breed Garlean be able to use magic. He's a success, but suffers psychological instability. While SE does mess around with lore stuff when it comes to mounts, I don't see them breaking lore when it comes to Garleans. 24 attempts to finally make a Garlean able to use magic and even then it's not perfect (and it's during Stormblood).

Anything else Garleans will use non-Garlean races. The Weapons are all piloted by Au Ra's, for example.

[Destati]

I would rather them finish Viera and Hrothgar first.

[Videra]

I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.

Literally every single job in the game explicitly uses aether. Warrior's aether manifest as frenzied energy/fire, as well as their attacks. Monk's story is literally about chakra points being wells of aether. For dragoon, what, pray tell, do you think Nastrond is? Blood of the dragon? All of the jumps?. Dancer and Bard use aether in a supportive fashion, one through dance, the other through song. Machinist uses aether in the sense that the holder of the aetherotransformer puts their personal aether into it, which then does all the work. There is not a single class in FFXIV that does not use some form of magic.

[SamSmoot]

Third eye? I always saw it as a big ugly pimple.

[MirronTulaxia]

I mean, as pointed out it's a lot of hassle for little gain. Lore issues they could try to handwave or just ignore, but it's just not that different from a normal race. Adding it as just a generic add-on/helmet would be best. Make it Mogstation even, with some "dress like Gaius" outfit or the like.

[Darkobra]

[Bright-Flower]

I doubt we will for the following reasons.

A. Hrothgard and Viera are already pushing the team to their limits of what they can handle with playable races, and if they ever add any more, there will be a lot of pressure to add the missing genders to these races rather than adding a whole new race.

B. Garleans visually don't add much to the game. They're just tall hyur with gray circles hot glued onto their foreheads.

C. Pure blooded garleans are kind of specific to one nation really, while the WOL's background is left much much more ambiguous, so it'd be weird to have a garlean WOL that doesn't have a past with the empire to expand upon in the story.

The whole no magic thing could be explained away easily by the echo/hydalyn's blessing allowing a garlean WOL to use magic despite the normal inability of their race to do so. But it would be extremely awkward trying to make a garlean WOL fit into the ARR and Stormblood stories especially without changing anything.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

I think playing as a Garlean would be pretty cool, but logically it wouldn't make sense. Many have made the aether argument here already so I won't rehash it, but there's a lot of lore reasons why we'd never play as one.