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    will we get Garleans Race?

    I know we just got bunny women and Lion men but ive been wondering this for 2 expacs now why didnt they add Garleans as a race it would be a human just with the third eye? is it maybe because they cant use magic in the traditional way since they cant channel or manipulate aether?
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    It’s not only for exactly the reasons you mentioned, but also the fact they’ve been a main antagonist for nearly 10 years.
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    yes but not every garlean we met is bad we have had more then a handful now as allies but yeah i think its the whole magic thing that they wont ever be added
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    Garleans can’t cast magic. So that means none of the jobs are viable. Zero, zilch, zip. Can’t be a white mage.... or any mage for that matter. Even gunbreaker uses aether imbued ammo. It’s known that ryne has to imbue thancreds ammo for him. So no we won’t have them as a race for that one reason.... magic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Garleans can’t cast magic. So that means none of the jobs are viable. Zero, zilch, zip. Can’t be a white mage.... or any mage for that matter. Even gunbreaker uses aether imbued ammo. It’s known that ryne has to imbue thancreds ammo for him. So no we won’t have them as a race for that one reason.... magic
    yeahhhhhhhhh I mean other games have class locking mainly wow as for race but i dont see FF doing that sad because i always wanted to have my third eye and be like Cid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyakin View Post
    Garleans can’t cast magic. So that means none of the jobs are viable. Zero, zilch, zip. Can’t be a white mage.... or any mage for that matter. Even gunbreaker uses aether imbued ammo. It’s known that ryne has to imbue thancreds ammo for him. So no we won’t have them as a race for that one reason.... magic
    Your point is correct, but there are jobs that don't use any form of magic. Warrior, monk, dragoon, samurai, machinist, dancer, bard.

    I don't think, to this point, that it would be good to introduce a race into the game that can play fewer than half of the jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Your point is correct, but there are jobs that don't use any form of magic. Warrior, monk, dragoon, samurai, machinist, dancer, bard.

    I don't think, to this point, that it would be good to introduce a race into the game that can play fewer than half of the jobs.
    All these jobs use some form of aether manipulation in otherwords magic. Dragoons jumps involve manipulating their bodies aether to jump higher, machinist even uses aether for some of it's ammunition and the device on your hip is designed for that, none of the garleans that use guns have this device so while they can obviously use the firearm itself the machinist as a job is more about the device that uses the wielders aether. Most songs or buff based abilities would use aether and most 'flashy' attacks are aether based, like samurais projectile. Basically just cause it doesn't use MP doesn't mean it isn't using aether which garleans cannot manipulate naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    All these jobs use some form of aether manipulation in otherwords magic. Dragoons jumps involve manipulating their bodies aether to jump higher, machinist even uses aether for some of it's ammunition and the device on your hip is designed for that, none of the garleans that use guns have this device so while they can obviously use the firearm itself the machinist as a job is more about the device that uses the wielders aether. Most songs or buff based abilities would use aether and most 'flashy' attacks are aether based, like samurais projectile. Basically just cause it doesn't use MP doesn't mean it isn't using aether which garleans cannot manipulate naturally.
    I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

    Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

    Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.
    From the lore book:
    Aetherotransformer
    This device converts the wearer's aether into lightning-aspected energy, which is then in turn stored within the transformer's power cores. The machinist then draws upon this accumulated energy to both power and enhance her unique repertoire of weapons, requiring her to master skills far beyond those trained by any mundane musketeer.
    Other parts of the 2 lore books mention other DoW using aether to augment their strength or vitality or add magic to song, etc. The alchemy questline even mentions it. For the newer jobs, gunbreakers add aether to their cartridges, which is why Thancred needs Ryne. And Dancer's steps are magical and affect aether in themselves and others, according to Nashmeira.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, but the whole point of the Resonant is to give Garleans aetherial manipulation. The Echo is only part of that. So your comment on that is not correct.
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    Last edited by MikkoAkure; 06-12-2020 at 07:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

    Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.
    Literally every single job in the game explicitly uses aether. Warrior's aether manifest as frenzied energy/fire, as well as their attacks. Monk's story is literally about chakra points being wells of aether. For dragoon, what, pray tell, do you think Nastrond is? Blood of the dragon? All of the jumps?. Dancer and Bard use aether in a supportive fashion, one through dance, the other through song. Machinist uses aether in the sense that the holder of the aetherotransformer puts their personal aether into it, which then does all the work. There is not a single class in FFXIV that does not use some form of magic.
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