will we get Garleans Race?

[wereotter]

All these jobs use some form of aether manipulation in otherwords magic. Dragoons jumps involve manipulating their bodies aether to jump higher, machinist even uses aether for some of it's ammunition and the device on your hip is designed for that, none of the garleans that use guns have this device so while they can obviously use the firearm itself the machinist as a job is more about the device that uses the wielders aether. Most songs or buff based abilities would use aether and most 'flashy' attacks are aether based, like samurais projectile. Basically just cause it doesn't use MP doesn't mean it isn't using aether which garleans cannot manipulate naturally.

I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.

[MikkoAkure]

I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.

From the lore book:

Aetherotransformer
This device converts the wearer's aether into lightning-aspected energy, which is then in turn stored within the transformer's power cores. The machinist then draws upon this accumulated energy to both power and enhance her unique repertoire of weapons, requiring her to master skills far beyond those trained by any mundane musketeer.

Other parts of the 2 lore books mention other DoW using aether to augment their strength or vitality or add magic to song, etc. The alchemy questline even mentions it. For the newer jobs, gunbreakers add aether to their cartridges, which is why Thancred needs Ryne. And Dancer's steps are magical and affect aether in themselves and others, according to Nashmeira.

Edit: Forgot to mention, but the whole point of the Resonant is to give Garleans aetherial manipulation. The Echo is only part of that. So your comment on that is not correct.

[wereotter]

Edit: Forgot to mention, but the whole point of the Resonant is to give Garleans aetherial manipulation. The Echo is only part of that. So your comment on that is not correct.

Yes, but intent and outcome were not the same, this happens in experimental research. What we ended up with were people who could manipulate aether enough to detect changes in it, making them far more effective combatants, and the ability to resist death akin to what the Echo does for us, or to how the Ascians cheat death, but it did not succeed in allowing the Garleans to use traditional magics.

So that being the case, the workings of Zenos as a samurai mean that at least that job does not manipulate aether. And considering that if other jobs are manipulating it just to make themselves stronger/faster, the Garleans are naturally stronger than all the other races of Eorzea, and could be argued not to have need to manipulate aether to augment their already naturally high abilities.

[VargasVermillion]

Yes, but intent and outcome were not the same, this happens in experimental research. What we ended up with were people who could manipulate aether enough to detect changes in it, making them far more effective combatants, and the ability to resist death akin to what the Echo does for us, or to how the Ascians cheat death, but it did not succeed in allowing the Garleans to use traditional magics.

So that being the case, the workings of Zenos as a samurai mean that at least that job does not manipulate aether. And considering that if other jobs are manipulating it just to make themselves stronger/faster, the Garleans are naturally stronger than all the other races of Eorzea, and could be argued not to have need to manipulate aether to augment their already naturally high abilities.

Aulus mal Asina's entire goal was to grant garleans power over magic, his research was largely ignored until Zenos took interest in his work. Zeno's ability to use some samurai techniques actually come from crystals that have aether in them, it mentions this in a short story about zeno's sword training by a swordsman that tried to kill him for revenge and he did the technique using a crystal. I would wager his big gun chamber sheath has something to do with it now too.

[MikkoAkure]

Yes, but intent and outcome were not the same, this happens in experimental research. What we ended up with were people who could manipulate aether enough to detect changes in it, making them far more effective combatants, and the ability to resist death akin to what the Echo does for us, or to how the Ascians cheat death, but it did not succeed in allowing the Garleans to use traditional magics.

So that being the case, the workings of Zenos as a samurai mean that at least that job does not manipulate aether. And considering that if other jobs are manipulating it just to make themselves stronger/faster, the Garleans are naturally stronger than all the other races of Eorzea, and could be argued not to have need to manipulate aether to augment their already naturally high abilities.

According to the lore books, everything involving ki is aetherial manipulation which would mean that ninja and samurai are more magical than some of the other DoW. Considering how Zenos

Pours aether into a borrowed and broken katana, uses magical barriers, and can teleport,

the resonant is more than the Echo. As I stated before.

[Videra]

I'm happy to go back and fact check myself, but the actual job description on the official job description for Machinist from the developers states that the job is using magitek technology, which is not aether manipulation.

Additionally many other jobs are not manipulating aether just because their attacks are flashy. Consider the flashy attacks that Zenos uses when we right him, and he can not manipulate aether. Also before we talk about the resonant he has, I'll stop that right away and remind that this ability is basically the Echo, and doesn't enable Garleans to use magics.

Literally every single job in the game explicitly uses aether. Warrior's aether manifest as frenzied energy/fire, as well as their attacks. Monk's story is literally about chakra points being wells of aether. For dragoon, what, pray tell, do you think Nastrond is? Blood of the dragon? All of the jumps?. Dancer and Bard use aether in a supportive fashion, one through dance, the other through song. Machinist uses aether in the sense that the holder of the aetherotransformer puts their personal aether into it, which then does all the work. There is not a single class in FFXIV that does not use some form of magic.