Geomancer

[MirronTulaxia]

1. The knights in the Knights of the Round. Two of them don't do any healing moves.

2. What Dancer does varies from game to game. Do you want me to go through every iteration of Dancer and point out how it differs from another? Dancer is one of the most flexible of jobs. But for all its flexibility, it has never been a job that focused on being in the back of the line throwing chakrams.

3. As I've said, I don't see Conjurer and Geomancer as being similar to each other, at least any more so than any other DoM job. Summoners use Fire, Wind, and Earth, that's three element overlap with Red Mage, and the same role. Obviously you aren't going to say they're the same job, which clearly means that you can use elements in different ways, even in the same role, and have it work. The point I keep making is that you have a very subjective, personal opinion of what constitutes similar and what does not. And even if the devs agreed the changes to White Mage could very well be enough for them, even if they aren't enough for you.

You keep saying that I don't understand the opposing points, but I don't think you understand mine at all. The point, again, plainly and simply, is that how similar or not something is winds up being subjective. To you using the same elements in the same role is enough to say "too similar". To me, elements are the basest of possible things and are so fluid as to mean next to nothing (although as an aside Geomancers actually using water would be different from White Mages too, Fluid Aura is basically just fluff at this point, so I could just as easily argue White Mages only use Wind and Earth), to you they're basically the cornerstone of a job to hear you talk about it.

I thought I made it clear when I talked about job fantasy. Summoner and Scholar, same role, to me would not be the same job. They would not be too similar. To you it sounds like they wouldn't even be too similar but basically the same job. That's because to me, the job fantasy of what a Summoner is versus what a Scholar is are two very different things. The roles, the weapons, the elements. These don't define the job fantasy. You could have a White Mage that is Fire, Water, Earth, or a Black Mage that is Water, Wind, and Earth (both elemental combinations have appeared in other games) and I would still say they're the same job fantasy. The trappings, your role, your weapons, your elements, those may define the expression but what makes the job what it is doesn't change.

Penelo interesting is in fact a White Mage - Dancer hybrid her healing abilities come from her White Magick so not really Healer Dancer. Since none of the Dancer abilities heal iirc.

Her only listed job is Dancer. You can argue about what that means but it's the only listed one.