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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Personally I skip cut scenes each time I run MSQ for the daily bonus and sure I get a few people who complain but more often I get people that join and we blaze through it.

    I am starting to think those bothered by it are simply complaining for the sake or complaining.
    Well tell me, if people start skipping the cutscenes and obviously there is no point in me being in the dungeon and especially no point in joining the boss fight, why do i get kicked if i tell them i'm taking a break? After all there is no point in joining the boss if it has 20-30% health left. I could spend that time doing what everyone else is doing in them anyway which is watching videos, reading a book or playing another game or something. I really want to know so please, tell me. If you just want to hurry through it, then it shouldn't matter at all. A few seconds less is not much after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaranoga View Post
    Well tell me, if people start skipping the cutscenes and obviously there is no point in me being in the dungeon and especially no point in joining the boss fight, why do i get kicked if i tell them i'm taking a break? After all there is no point in joining the boss if it has 20-30% health left. I could spend that time doing what everyone else is doing in them anyway which is watching videos, reading a book or playing another game or something. I really want to know so please, tell me. If you just want to hurry through it, then it shouldn't matter at all. A few seconds less is not much after all.
    Being a leech is far different from skipping cut scenes to take part in fights quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Being a leech is far different from skipping cut scenes to take part in fights quicker.
    Heh, indeed. So why do you want to hurry it along so much that i don't have any time to participate in the fights? Especially when, as you say you inspire other assholes to join, you really should have nothing to complain about. What's fun in entering the boss room, barely starting your rotation, it's dead. Come on, i'm sure you have a better excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaranoga View Post
    Heh, indeed. So why do you want to hurry it along so much that i don't have any time to participate in the fights? Especially when, as you say you inspire other assholes to join, you really should have nothing to complain about. What's fun in entering the boss room, barely starting your rotation, it's dead. Come on, i'm sure you have a better excuse.
    I do not recall complaining just saying that there is a difference between sitting around afk, or just standing around out of spite for those that skip verse watching cut scenes. I have no beef either way if someone wants to netflix and tab out, but I can see where people might draw the line.

    Cannot speak for others but I wish to speed content along since I just want my daily reward and that is all. I like to play my video games not watch them. Thankfully I rarely run into people that get all upset about skipping and often run into people that did not even know they could do it. Either way I do not heal or tank content to help others I just enjoy the role and will perform it to best of my ability, I do not really care about much of anything else. If it turns out a run is too slow or do not feel like waiting around I will leave no skin off my back. It is not the end of the world.

    They should just make a solo instance and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I do not recall complaining just saying that there is a difference between sitting around afk, or just standing around out of spite for those that skip verse watching cut scenes. I have no beef either way if someone wants to netflix and tab out, but I can see where people might draw the line.

    Cannot speak for others but I wish to speed content along since I just want my daily reward and that is all. I like to play my video games not watch them. Thankfully I rarely run into people that get all upset about skipping and often run into people that did not even know they could do it. Either way I do not heal or tank content to help others I just enjoy the role and will perform it to best of my ability, I do not really care about much of anything else. If it turns out a run is too slow or do not feel like waiting around I will leave no skin off my back. It is not the end of the world.

    They should just make a solo instance and be done with it.
    I agree, the MSQ roulette and all dungeons and trials should be changed so they are solo instances or can be completed with trust. Then i would never have to deal with anyone ever again, that would be beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsaranoga View Post
    I agree, the MSQ roulette and all dungeons and trials should be changed so they are solo instances or can be completed with trust. Then i would never have to deal with anyone ever again, that would be beautiful.
    I know this is most likely sarcasm, but considering the two MSQ roulette dungeons are what I'd personally call the worst designed dungeons in the game specifically because of the 40+ minutes of cutscenes in them, I'm not sure they really fall into the same category as any other dungeon or trial.

    Whatever people's reasons for not liking the way they are now, turning them into trust dungeons would really be undoing what was a terrible design decision in the first place. They should have been solo duties to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    The point was to find out if the Devs brought back the option to skip the cutscenes would the playerS who defend not skipping the cutscenes jump ship and start skipping again? They defend it so well but will not watch the cutscenes once the option to skip them comes back.
    I'd go back to skipping the scenes rather than being locked in them and clicking through the dialogue, yes... but I'd also go back to:

    • waiting (and/or asking the rest of the party to wait) if there was someone still in the cutscene - sometimes they did, sometimes they didn't

    • shepherding the poor lost newbie through the dungeon if everyone else left them behind

    • spending the cutscene time sorting my inventory

    • getting a fast run if everyone else skipped too

    It was - should have been - a roulette of your time. Will you get a fast group of veterans, or do you need to wait?

    If "not even 50%" of runs are a full party of veterans then even if you wait whenever someone is watching the scenes, then you'd only have to wait on less than 50% of runs too.


    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    can we stop pretending theres newbies left and right in these roulettes? i guarantee you not even 50% of them have new player bonus

    also if the only issue of skipping is new players, why get mad when people skip it when theres no new players anyway
    If it only happened on veteran runs, maybe. But the attitude from the pro-skipping people tends to be "stuff the newbies, they got their cutscenes, why should they need the fights as well?" - so clearly they're not only doing it when nobody should mind.

    As to why people would complain when there's no newbies... maybe they're frustrated at the general attitude of people who skip. Maybe they don't like involuntarily becoming "leeches" who aren't helping with the fights. Maybe they find it disconcerting that the fight is over when it's supposed to be beginning. Maybe they just wanted to punch Gaius in the face again.
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