Punish MSQ Cutscene Skippers

[Raltar]

It’s easy to tell the difference between actual skipping and language cutting off like ten seconds. Plus if you did report someone incorrectly who just had a language setting different the logs would show they never disconnected so nothing should happen to them.

I wasn't worried about the language people, I was warning the reporters. Because too many false reportings and you are the one that gets in trouble.

[ShariusTC]

Newbies "get to watch the cutscenes"... but don't get to participate in any of the fights that those cutscenes lead into.

It's like watching an action movie with all the action sequences cut out.

Lol, you call it "a fight" when everyone just butn the heck out of the boss, and healer doesnt bother to heal?

[Iscah]

Lol, you call it "a fight" when everyone just butn the heck out of the boss, and healer doesnt bother to heal?

Fine then, "the action sequences".

They are still an integral part of the dungeon as it is intended to be experienced, and a short unbalanced battle is still better than going straight from pre-battle to post-battle cutscene. Just being part of it makes a difference.

[Avidria]

They're bypassing the intention of the roulette and getting the rewards with no effort. As well as making the roulette less enjoyable for newbies who want to enjoy the story.

In fairness, literally everyone in Prae and Castrum is getting rewards for close to zero effort. One or two people skipping cutscenes doesn't mean everyone else is suddenly not seeing them at all, and the fights are such an absolute joke that even if you miss them (which you won't unless like half the group skips, which I've seen happen maybe once), you aren't missing much. There are almost no mechanics that matter at all, and I think I've seen like two wipes in Castrum ever because somebody decided to pull the big pack of giants near the end or because the big pull at the beginning went sideways.

They're two horribly designed, faceroll easy dungeons with little engaging content to begin with. Half of Prae is literally just running and clicking past mobs.

I don't skip, but I really don't care if people do. Just saves me a couple of minutes and means less button mashing elevator man for ten years til he decides to monologue forever again.

To be fair, unless you log back on, notice everyone else is still trapped in the cutscene and proceed to lay waste to the boss while they're still inside no one would even notice you got disconnected and reconnected and accidentally skipped it. That and SE can see for themselves who was engaged with the boss while others were still going through the majority of the cutscene through their own records.

Trouble is it is also possible for a legit DC to happen too. My internet cut out in the middle of Livia's mech battle the other night, and I loaded back in literally right on top of her while everyone else was still in the cutscene. Obviously as a tank there's no way I was soloing that lmao, I think I moved her hp like 2% by myself, but luckily the cutscene was almost over anyway and everybody was able to make it in pretty quickly. :P

[AduroT]

It only took three people to run Praetorium earlier this week. As we got to Nero one of them said skipping in chat, and then I managed to see the last ten seconds of the second Ultima fight, otherwise it was nothing but wall to wall cutscenes as the three of them killed everything.

[Neoom]

Fine then, "the action sequences".

They are still an integral part of the dungeon as it is intended to be experienced, and a short unbalanced battle is still better than going straight from pre-battle to post-battle cutscene. Just being part of it makes a difference.

Also the ''action sequence'' might seem like an actual fight for some new players, most who care about the story and might I say be excited to fight the bosses? I know I was super excited, but also nervous on my first time there, it isn't just skipping through. Let the new people enjoy it, you never know who is actually really interested in the story and want to experience it. Every single on in this thread has been a tiny leaf at one point, not all into the story but new anyway. Let new people enjoy the duties, being how low level or low effort!

[SDaemon]

Trouble is it is also possible for a legit DC to happen too. My internet cut out in the middle of Livia's mech battle the other night, and I loaded back in literally right on top of her while everyone else was still in the cutscene. Obviously as a tank there's no way I was soloing that lmao, I think I moved her hp like 2% by myself, but luckily the cutscene was almost over anyway and everybody was able to make it in pretty quickly. :P

How is that trouble though? If you have an accidental DC and log back to everyone still chilling in the cutscene just sit there and wait out the cutscene and relax. If you have a situation like what you did, just mention in chat the situation, apologize and let them know the boss isn't going to die anytime soon. If someone reports you, you have that chat log to show that hey you brought up the situation to the group, made it known you aren't going to be killing the boss and just sat there bopping her till the cutscene ended then went on with the fight, or really however you want to bring up and clarify the matter with the group. It is why SE investigates. They don't just take reports sent to them at face value and bring down their mighty hammer of ban.

[SinisterJoints]

Here is my thing. ALL MSQ DUNGEONS should be turned into Trust dungeons. Nobody should be FORCED to watch them nor FORCED to skip the cutscene's, period. The fights themselves are over in seconds so there is no point in whining about "missing the fight" because you aren't missing anything.

[Iscah]

The fights themselves are over in seconds so there is no point in whining about "missing the fight" because you aren't missing anything.

Yes. You. Are.

Or rather, the new player is because you made the decision about what they should care about or not.

It doesn't matter if it's over in seconds. They are missing those seconds. Those seconds are a segment of the dungeon that join event A to event C to event F. They are part of the story.

Yes it would be better for everyone if they were solo trust missions, but they aren't. So don't make it even worse.

[TyrTry]

Yes. You. Are.

Or rather, the new player is because you made the decision about what they should care about or not.

It doesn't matter if it's over in seconds. They are missing those seconds. Those seconds are a segment of the dungeon that join event A to event C to event F. They are part of the story.

Yes it would be better for everyone if they were solo trust missions, but they aren't. So don't make it even worse.

It's not about the new players; it is only about the time they can save for themselves and they will use as many mental gymnastics as possible to make their stance justifiable.