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    Maybe SE should make it so that if you disconnect (intentionally or not) and log back in, you'll load just outside the boss arena with the barrier up (it won't come down until everyone finish watching CS).
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    It saves the group time depending on how many people skip. We cannot deny this fact, now we can go back and forth if it is right or wrong. Though the time factor is indeed fact depending on the amount and roles that skip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    It saves the group time depending on how many people skip. We cannot deny this fact, now we can go back and forth if it is right or wrong. Though the time factor is indeed fact depending on the amount and roles that skip.
    No, it is wrong. There is no grey area here. The game developers have designed it to run a certain way. You are using an exploit to get by that. Stop lying and saying that it is about helping people by making it faster. The only one you care about is how long it takes YOU to get your reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tchaktuli View Post
    No, it is wrong. There is no grey area here. The game developers have designed it to run a certain way. You are using an exploit to get by that. Stop lying and saying that it is about helping people by making it faster. The only one you care about is how long it takes YOU to get your reward.
    Well I mean if people skip and I skip I am helping people by making it go faster. Though let us look at it this way. Say if SE makes it so cut scenes cannot be skipped no matter what. People like we have other options to get tomes and exp, but what about those that need to clear that dungeon? Cannot say for certain but can we say for certain the queue times would not increase thus objectively leading to a negative impact on new players because they would have to wait longer in queue?

    Those that use it for exp or tomes can move on to something else, but those who need it cannot. It is wrong by your standards but not mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Well I mean if people skip and I skip I am helping people by making it go faster. Though let us look at it this way. Say if SE makes it so cut scenes cannot be skipped no matter what. People like we have other options to get tomes and exp, but what about those that need to clear that dungeon? Cannot say for certain but can we say for certain the queue times would not increase thus objectively leading to a negative impact on new players because they would have to wait longer in queue?

    Those that use it for exp or tomes can move on to something else, but those who need it cannot. It is wrong by your standards but not mine.
    The targeted veteran players from the beginning are the ones who actually want to spend extra time for extra tomes and exp. Those players are the ones SE is expecting to help the new players queue. If SE made it so it can't be exploited no matter what, such as putting barrier around players or entrance to boss arena during CS watching, then those players won't be affected because they do want to spend extra time (while watching netflix or whatever). They will still queue and new players can still clear them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fland View Post
    The targeted veteran players from the beginning are the ones who actually want to spend extra time for extra tomes and exp. Those players are the ones SE is expecting to help the new players queue. If SE made it so it can't be exploited no matter what, such as putting barrier around players or entrance to boss arena during CS watching, then those players won't be affected because they do want to spend extra time (while watching netflix or whatever). They will still queue and new players can still clear them.
    That may be the, but also may not. If I was a new player I would not want to risk having longer queue times. Dealt with long queue times in TOR it was painful. Though as I mentioned I cannot say for certain if queue times would ne negatively impacted or not just something I think that should be considered.

    All I can do is go based off my own personal experience and not sure if it is because I initiate but normally I end up in groups where 3 or 4 others also end up skipping, sometimes even 6.

    In the end I would be okay if they made CS unskippable since I am personally curious on what impact it would have on queue times.
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    Dont. Que. For. It. If you dont like the Cutscenes. Dont skip it, dont push em. Its already a joke some ppl finish earlier due system differences...

    The fact ppl defend that just makes me so frustrated....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Dont. Que. For. It. If you dont like the Cutscenes. Dont skip it, dont push em. Its already a joke some ppl finish earlier due system differences...

    The fact ppl defend that just makes me so frustrated....
    I mean why not queue for it when we can queue for it and skip the cut scenes. It is quick and easy exp/tomes. I mean you can say it is wrong and that is why one should not queue for it, but at the end of the day what people view as wrong differs so does not seem like a solid reason to not queue for it. Could say it is ruining the experience for others, but that also differs from person to person.

    In the end people like low effort quick exp/tomes MSQ while skipping cut scenes is just that.
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    Last edited by Awha; 05-29-2020 at 03:29 AM.

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    I think skipping the cut scenes should be punishable by death. No really..../what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    I mean why not queue for it when we can queue for it and skip the cut scenes. It is quick and easy exp/tomes. I mean you can say it is wrong and that is why one should not queue for it, but at the end of the day what people view as wrong differs so does not seem like a solid reason to not queue for it. Could say it is ruining the experience for others, but that also differs from person to person.

    In the end people like low effort quick exp/tomes MSQ while skipping cut scenes is just that.
    This way of thinking is why we can't have nice things.
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