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    ArcaviusGreyashe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyCrystel View Post
    If it's about pedos:
    Lalafell hardly match a normal human physique (closest would be toddlers) - and, furthermore, I was told in this forum that pedos playing this game prefer small Au Ra girls a ka playable characters - so that argument won't count for me.
    I don't know what pedos play, nor what they want to play, and I sure don't want to know. But calling traps, which is a highly sexual connoted word, something that looks, from your own words, like toddlers, that's definitely pedophilia and a big yikes.

    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyCrystel View Post
    If it's about traps:
    Excuse me, princess, but there's nothing wrong with feminine looking guys and / or guys who enjoy female clothing.
    I've spent the last 4 or 5 messages arguing for feminine clothing for males (or masculine clothing for females), please don't just read what is being said to you, but what is said on the thread you're talking about. Also, fetishizing transgender people (or crossdressing people) is pretty much just as bad as fetishizing races or anything, and I do hope you're just calling them traps for the meme, and not because that's just a fetish, 'cause that would be highly disrespectful.

    Quote Originally Posted by MelodyCrystel View Post
    If it's about Lalafell:
    Oi, Lalas are cute little potatos, so what's your problem?
    My two best friends play lalafells, there is nothing wrong with that. They just deserve better players than some people that play them.



    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    I get the point. The fact is my character is... just some kind of puppet and I am the puppeteer, even if I were playing a male character it wouldn't change. Or maybe by instinct I play a female character to keep the distance.
    And that's perfectly alright. Nobody should try to change the way you play the game. Nobody's saying you're a bad person because of that. You can of course play a MMORPG without ever concerning yourself with other people, but don't take the option out for other players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
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    I do interact with others players.

    In fact, I've discovered Internet more or less between 1996 and 1999 and already at that time, there were some kind of jokes, of meme, a warning among us (it was more or less before A grade) :
    Don't trust people you see on internet, the cute girl can be a ugly fat guy with dirty beard, at home, laughing at you while eating chips and the ugly monster avatar with male pseudonym can be a beautiful girl.

    I guess it remains in my mind whatever I do on Internet and leads me to act accordingly.
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    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    I do interact with others players.

    In fact, I've discovered Internet more or less between 1996 and 1999 and already at that time, there were some kind of jokes, of meme, a warning among us (it was more or less before A grade) :
    Don't trust people you see on internet, the cute girl can be a ugly fat guy with dirty beard, at home, laughing at you while eating chips and the ugly monster avatar with male pseudonym can be a beautiful girl.

    I guess it remains in my mind whatever I do on Internet and leads me to act accordingly.
    Yeah, I was indirectly answering Krotoan here, when I say you can play without concerning yourself with others. My point was "Either your or Krotoan's way of playing are as valid as mine or whoever's, that's why FFXIV should remain a space where everyone can play the way they want". Sorry for not being clear about it.

    And of course, there are people that lie about themselves, for whatever reason (because they're trolls, because they fear harassment, and everything in between or outside of that) but, and I certainly won't teach you that out of all things, it's only as important as the trust you put in these people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    I don't know what pedos play, nor what they want to play, and I sure don't want to know. But calling traps, which is a highly sexual connoted word, something that looks, from your own words, like toddlers, that's definitely pedophilia and a big yikes.



    I've spent the last 4 or 5 messages arguing for feminine clothing for males (or masculine clothing for females), please don't just read what is being said to you, but what is said on the thread you're talking about. Also, fetishizing transgender people (or crossdressing people) is pretty much just as bad as fetishizing races or anything, and I do hope you're just calling them traps for the meme, and not because that's just a fetish, 'cause that would be highly disrespectful.
    As I said, I find Lalas cute, but that's not meant in a sexual way. Hence, could you stop the pedo-nonsense while responding to me? That would be nice.

    Also, Lalas are the only characters that have a neutral body-type (male and female aren't extremely different like all the others) thus it's tempting very much to make them visual tomboys and whatever term you find better than trap. I don't use the later word in a meme way-- I'm not a native English speaker but a German woman, so you can say I live under a rock considering English trends. I just say trap because that's the phrase people apparently use when they refer to a boy wearing girlish stuff while behaving female-oriented.

    Throwing the word fetish so quickly around is pretty unfair as you don't even know me. What if I had been a guy who enjoys dressing like a girl and flirting with boys? Though I'm a female, I can tell you if I had the other gender I would still find some woman-clothes nice to wear - as my personality got a balanced mix of traits common for men and women.
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