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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    So then its not greedy, people just want things for free.
    I don't want things for free, I want consistent quality overall. When stuff in game looks lower grade than mogstation stuff it's an issue in my opinion.

    Like someone else said, it's subjective, but you can look at my post on page 7 and judge for yourself how much effort has been put into each outfit.

    I don't mind if they put cute things on mogstation that look cool and different, I just want the in game stuff to have that same quality.

    If we had caster outfits that had the same attention to detail, I'd be 100% fine with this dress. But no, they gave us floaty shoulder pads with square cuts and huge rivets. It's not like that gear is coming out of Eulmore, you know, the place that's supposed to be super fancy where we see super fancy people walking about with their servants......................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    I don't want things for free, I want consistent quality overall. When stuff in game looks lower grade than mogstation stuff it's an issue in my opinion.

    Like someone else said, it's subjective, but you can look at my post on page 7 and judge for yourself how much effort has been put into each outfit.

    I don't mind if they put cute things on mogstation that look cool and different, I just want the in game stuff to have that same quality.

    If we had caster outfits that had the same attention to detail, I'd be 100% fine with this dress. But no, they gave us floaty shoulder pads with square cuts and huge rivets. It's not like that gear is coming out of Eulmore, you know, the place that's supposed to be super fancy where we see super fancy people walking about with their servants......................
    That gear is Crystarium gear, so it's most likely designed after what people in the Crystarium wear - not what the people in Eulmore wear. As the people in the Crystarium are working folk with their gear being basic or armour a bit of a low-fantasy twist, the armor sets fit perfectly.

    I like the Crystarium gear you showed more than I do the fae dress. It's more visually appealing, doesn't have gaudy additions like the wings, dyes very nicely, and doesn't have strange pixelated textures. Once again, it's subjective. Just putting my two cents out there that in my opinion, there isn't a quality issue going on, it just happens to not cater to your taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsumdere View Post
    That gear is Crystarium gear, so it's most likely designed after what people in the Crystarium wear - not what the people in Eulmore wear. As the people in the Crystarium are working folk with their gear being basic or armour a bit of a low-fantasy twist, the armor sets fit perfectly.

    I like the Crystarium gear you showed more than I do the fae dress. It's more visually appealing, doesn't have gaudy additions like the wings, dyes very nicely, and doesn't have strange pixelated textures. Once again, it's subjective. Just putting my two cents out there that in my opinion, there isn't a quality issue going on, it just happens to not cater to your taste.
    Fair enough. I guess I'll just wait for when they change the general fashion theme to something that suits me better. To be honest the fae dress isn't my cup of tea either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrenn View Post
    I don't want things for free, I want consistent quality overall. When stuff in game looks lower grade than mogstation stuff it's an issue in my opinion.

    Like someone else said, it's subjective, but you can look at my post on page 7 and judge for yourself how much effort has been put into each outfit.

    I don't mind if they put cute things on mogstation that look cool and different, I just want the in game stuff to have that same quality.

    If we had caster outfits that had the same attention to detail, I'd be 100% fine with this dress. But no, they gave us floaty shoulder pads with square cuts and huge rivets. It's not like that gear is coming out of Eulmore, you know, the place that's supposed to be super fancy where we see super fancy people walking about with their servants......................
    Well, considering the gear is called -crystarium- gear, I don't think it's really coming from Eulmore. Just saying :P

    But the simple reality between the quality difference is that the mogstation team is separate from the main dev team. Think about it. Every 3.5-4 months, the main dev modelers have to create hundreds of 3D models for unique gear, and create new textures/color mappings for anything they re-skin. Not to mention all the enemy models for raids, instances, etc that are unique. Taking a look at the eorzea database, they added in several hundred items in patch 5.2 alone (Crystarium, Edenchoir, Neo-Ishgardian, Ruby Weapons, Dalmascan draped set, Corsages for head, Craftsman's apron set, Re-textured gear for Anamesis list goes on, even before counting monster/arena/etc models)

    Compare that to the mogstation team, who have barely any workload compared to it. Who knows what their deadlines are, but given the sparsity of their unique additions, I doubt they're anywhere as strict as the main dev team's. So its no surprise their stuff is higher quality; not only do they get more time to work on it, but they aren't as hard pressed as the main dev team is, considering they're having to make hundreds of less models than the main dev team does. I can almost guarantee you that it's not that "they know exactly what they're doing by putting more flamboyant stuff up on the mog and giving us boring outfits." It's simple dev workloads vs time constraints in action. Of course the team that gets to spend literal months painstakingly working on a small number of items will churn out much flashier and well built stuff than a team that has to create 3-4 tiers of ilvl worth of sets for every role (Fending/Healing/Casting/Striking/Maiming/Aiming/Scouting), each with unique models in a very short timespan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    Well, considering the gear is called -crystarium- gear, I don't think it's really coming from Eulmore. Just saying :P

    But the simple reality between the quality difference is that the mogstation team is separate from the main dev team. Think about it. Every 3.5-4 months, the main dev modelers have to create hundreds of 3D models for unique gear, and create new textures/color mappings for anything they re-skin. Not to mention all the enemy models for raids, instances, etc that are unique. Taking a look at the eorzea database, they added in several hundred items in patch 5.2 alone (Crystarium, Edenchoir, Neo-Ishgardian, Ruby Weapons, Dalmascan draped set, Corsages for head, Craftsman's apron set, Re-textured gear for Anamesis list goes on, even before counting monster/arena/etc models)

    Compare that to the mogstation team, who have barely any workload compared to it. Who knows what their deadlines are, but given the sparsity of their unique additions, I doubt they're anywhere as strict as the main dev team's. So its no surprise their stuff is higher quality; not only do they get more time to work on it, but they aren't as hard pressed as the main dev team is, considering they're having to make hundreds of less models than the main dev team does. I can almost guarantee you that it's not that "they know exactly what they're doing by putting more flamboyant stuff up on the mog and giving us boring outfits." It's simple dev workloads vs time constraints in action. Of course the team that gets to spend literal months painstakingly working on a small number of items will churn out much flashier and well built stuff than a team that has to create 3-4 tiers of ilvl worth of sets for every role (Fending/Healing/Casting/Striking/Maiming/Aiming/Scouting), each with unique models in a very short timespan.
    If it's just a design choice to fit the crystarium npcs then I just have to wait for the theme to change. I hope that's the case.

    Actually wasn't aware that the mogstation team is different, only found out through this thread as I've been reading through. They could've been working on that dress since 5.0 for all we know. I knew some of the pieces was from the chinese and korean versions of the game so I didn't really question those because I assume they don't work on the main game.
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