Mogstation taking another step to the darkside

[Minxilicious]

PSA : SE is silencing people who oppose their atrocious monatization practices. My boyfriend made this thread to make light of SE gating seasonal content in the cash shop. Last night he was banned from the forums under false pretense so that he couldn't continue voicing his concern in the forums. Many people are arguing that this seasonal mount in the cash shop isn't that bad. However, where do we draw the line for what is acceptable in a subscription game that is leaning towards a free to play model?

[Awha]

PSA : SE is silencing people who oppose their atrocious monatization practices. My boyfriend made this thread to make light of SE gating seasonal content in the cash shop. Last night he was banned from the forums under false pretense so that he couldn't continue voicing his concern in the forums. Many people are arguing that this seasonal mount in the cash shop isn't that bad. However, where do we draw the line for what is acceptable in a subscription game that is leaning towards a free to play model?

Just wondering in the email that has states the reason for the suspension what rule / post did they quote?

The amount of people shilling for SE here is worrying, not gonna lie. How about we increase the monthly subscription, make every future mount a Mog Station only item and all dyes are single use and can only be purchased for real money. I'm sure even then people would defend the game. Give them and inch and such. Some people have no common sense. /sigh

The reality is you are right people will defend the game since many have differing views and for microtransactions to work they do not need a large percentage of the player base to take part.

I mean if SE cash shop the hill on which people wish to die on so be it. In the end though SE has a rather modest cash shop that surprisingly tame when you compare them to other moms and competitively priced. As you mentioned it could be so much worse. Sure it could be better but expecting them to stop using the cash shop for mounts, dyes, cosmetic items is not going to happen unless they do something that will cause a mass exodus of the game.

[Minxilicious]

Just wondering in the email that has states the reason for the suspension what rule / post did they quote?



The reality is you are right people will defend the game since many have differing views and for microtransactions to work they do not need a large percentage of the player base to take part.

I mean if SE cash shop the hill on which people wish to die on so be it. In the end though SE has a rather modest cash shop that surprisingly tame when you compare them to other moms and competitively priced. As you mentioned it could be so much worse. Sure it could be better but expecting them to stop using the cash shop for mounts, dyes, cosmetic items is not going to happen unless they do something that will cause a mass exodus of the game.

He was not given a reason for the ban. They used a generic view forum guideline.

We dont oppose SE using a cash shop. However, if you have played the game for more than a few years, you would have seen that the cash shop has become increasingly egregious. A subscription game should be held to a higher standard, even their biggest competitor`s cash shop isnt as bad as this.

[Seraphor]

He was not given a reason for the ban. They used a generic view forum guideline.

We dont oppose SE using a cash shop. However, if you have played the game for more than a few years, you would have seen that the cash shop has become increasingly egregious. A subscription game should be held to a higher standard, even their biggest competitor`s cash shop isnt as bad as this.

Out of curiosity, I had a look at his previous posts.
There were a few swear words, perhaps that could be it, but I didn't notice anything else.
Well, anything but the fact that every post made over the past few years was complaining about items being on mogstation. Carbuncle mounts and an emote... so not seasonal stuff.
You don't oppose SE using a cash shop, except when it has items you (or he) personally want, it seems.

[SturmChurro]

Out of curiosity, I had a look at his previous posts.
There were a few swear words, perhaps that could be it, but I didn't notice anything else.
Well, anything but the fact that every post made over the past few years was complaining about items being on mogstation. Carbuncle mounts and an emote... so not seasonal stuff.
You don't oppose SE using a cash shop, except when it has items you (or he) personally want, it seems.

They will delete an entire post if it has a swear word they deem "profanity". It is likely that whatever post they got hit with is deleted.

[Lathander81]

Out of curiosity, I had a look at his previous posts.
There were a few swear words, perhaps that could be it, but I didn't notice anything else.
Well, anything but the fact that every post made over the past few years was complaining about items being on mogstation. Carbuncle mounts and an emote... so not seasonal stuff.
You don't oppose SE using a cash shop, except when it has items you (or he) personally want, it seems.

Exactly true..I dont oppose the cashshop. Also yes most of my post are about they shady practices there. Its really my only complaint about the game other than retainers being a monthly charge.

[Awha]

He was not given a reason for the ban. They used a generic view forum guideline.

We dont oppose SE using a cash shop. However, if you have played the game for more than a few years, you would have seen that the cash shop has become increasingly egregious. A subscription game should be held to a higher standard, even their biggest competitor`s cash shop isnt as bad as this.

That seems odd, I would try to fight it I have been suspended from the forums many times and they always provide the post that was the result of the suspension. Sure the reason behind is kind of weak but if the email does not have the post or quote what was said for the suspended you should fight it. Though I have been banned for profanity, using the r word, cancer in a certain context, posting a pic of an otter, taking part in an already necro thread, calling someone a fool. List goes on SE forum mods do not play.

Thing is SE cash shop is rather tame even at it's most "egregious" I do get where you are coming from, but when I have to to disagree with you regarding blizzards cash shop if that is what you are referring to. Granted it is a subjective I do feel SE does a good job with balancing the cash shop and in game mounts. Blizzard seems to put more effort into their cash shop mounts, maybe outside the massive in game money sink mounts but even then given tokens those could also be obtained through the cash shop.

[SturmChurro]

That seems odd, I would try to fight it I have been suspended from the forums many times and they always provide the post that was the result of the suspension. Sure the reason behind is kind of weak but if the email does not have the post or quote what was said for the suspended you should fight it.

You cannot fight a ban on these forums. There are no appeals, moderator action is final. Trust me. I know.

Mog-Station OCD Hoarder - However much it takes to get these things for free.

Heck, if they did that, then all of this would be a non-issue even with a cash shop.

That sounds more egregious than having the cash shop as it is. In my opinion, a really bad idea. Fallout 1st here we go.

If yo uwant the items. Buy them. What is the difference between buying them through a faux subscription fee or just paying for them upfront? The difference is they can load that horrible subscription idea with a bunch of dog poop to justify the cost. While you can directly buy exactly the bonus items you want through the mogstation and not be paying continuously for garbage.

[Awha]

You cannot fight a ban on these forums. There are no appeals, moderator action is final. Trust me. I know.

That is true, but if the email does not have a quote as to the reason for the suspension no matter how trivial then they should fight it. If the got an email said you are suspended for x reason without showing where you broke the rule that seems out of character for SE. Trust me I know I have been suspended many times and even if their reason is odd, they have always provided a comment that resulted the suspension. Even if it goes no where, people should make a record when a forum moderator does suspended someone without a reason. Do not get me wrong I do think the email had a reason but without knowing for sure I will give them the benefit of doubt.

[SturmChurro]

That is true, but if the email does not have a quote as to the reason for the suspension no matter how trivial then they should fight it. If the got an email said you are suspended for x reason without showing where you broke the rule that seems out of character for SE. Trust me I know I have been suspended many times and even if their reason is odd, they have always provided a comment that resulted the suspension. Even if it goes no where, people should make a record when a forum moderator does suspended someone without a reason. Do not get me wrong I do think the email had a reason but without knowing for sure I will give them the benefit of doubt.

There is a reason I say "it seems", or I attack the idea, or I say "they", "some people", "maybe", "in my opinion". If you don't use those words you can be banned for "libel, slander". For example. It's the same reason I use a spongebob vocabulary, like I am in 6th grade. The forum guidelines are very broad. I'm sure if there is a ban it is legitimate, no matter how bad you or I may think it is.