Mogstation taking another step to the darkside

[Alleo]

So please lets dispense with the "SE can do Better and this is just greed!" angle and be real about this. The discussion isnt about what's good or bad or some moralistic view of what SE should be, its about is it a legit business transaction or a scummy fleecing campaign.

There are still companys out there that dont milk their customers for every bit of money AND we had the word of Yoshida about it being only for old event items and that they dont do that to earn money. So yes I am going to voice my opinion on this because they went against their own words and the prices are just horrible. Heck if we would get more content thanks to that then maybe I could accept it more but we dont. We get less stuff even with over a million of active subs.

I dont care how many other companys are also greedy like that..it does not make the actions of SE better.

Also alot of the lootboxes in other games are also just cosmetic. Why are they different? Yes they have a RNG factor to them but again they often just providing cosmetic items and seemingly doing that is fine here.
It is annoying to me because I like glamour, mounts and pets. Getting them is often the number one reason for me to do content and seeing how much they put behind a lot of stuff that might not be fun for the most of us they are also seeing it as a great carrot on the stick. So lets not pretend that the stuff that lands in the mogstation is not something people want. They know exactly what they are doing. The evens are also quite a hit or miss. Sometimes we get some nice clothes and sometimes we even get a mount but a lot of the event items are things for the houses (which a lot of people dont even have).

Sad times when someone not wanting to pay more in an already sub based game is seen as an unreasonable customer.

Heck they could have done the cash shop and the ingame stuff in great combination. Release event items for each event again (as they did in the past before cash shop was there) and put them also in the cash shop. Waiting one year to get your hands on them might be too much for some so those can buy them with real money. There both sides should be happy. Release tokens ingame that people can earn to buy mog station items from it. They are not too easy to get thus people will have to work hard towards them (thus playing the game more -> paying more sub money) or people can just buy them.

[Theodric]

I think it's rather unfair to expect Yoshi-P to be held accountable for every single statement that he has made over the years when FFXIV is an ongoing project that is constantly evolving and being updated.

If people feel so strongly about the issue and truly consider it to be a jarring, unforgivable act then they're free to vote with their wallet and take their leave of the game. That's exactly what I intend to do if the game ever crosses a line that I find to be unacceptable. I did as much with World of Warcraft when it moved in a direction I found to be uninteresting I stopped playing it despite years of investment.

[linay]

Also alot of the lootboxes in other games are also just cosmetic. Why are they different? Yes they have a RNG factor to them but again they often just providing cosmetic items and seemingly doing that is fine here.

The RNG factor makes a big difference. You could spend money and not get what you want. That is objectively worse regardless if it's just for cosmetics.

Sad times when someone not wanting to pay more in an already sub based game is seen as an unreasonable customer.

That doesn't make you an unreasonable customer. What makes you an unreasonable customer is demanding that SE go against what the market tells them would be profitable when it doesn't impact the game.

Heck they could have done the cash shop and the ingame stuff in great combination. Release event items for each event again (as they did in the past before cash shop was there) and put them also in the cash shop. Waiting one year to get your hands on them might be too much for some so those can buy them with real money. There both sides should be happy. Release tokens ingame that people can earn to buy mog station items from it. They are not too easy to get thus people will have to work hard towards them (thus playing the game more -> paying more sub money) or people can just buy them.

Now that would be greedy. If they're releasing the item again in game then they shouldn't be offering it for money and should encourage people to do the content in game to get it. Also, that would mean that the Mog Station would have a bigger impact on the game, and I'd rather not have that.