Idea: Premium Wards

[Billythepancake]

Care to elaborate?

I'd say my top solution would be to do as another thread insisted, give the option for larger apartments. Not a perfect fix, but it'd certainly help. A lot of people just want more room to let their creative juices flow, and current apartments are just way too small to allow that.

[Doozer]

I'd say my top solution would be to do as another thread insisted, give the option for larger apartments. Not a perfect fix, but it'd certainly help. A lot of people just want more room to let their creative juices flow, and current apartments are just way too small to allow that.

Apartments are definitely too small as it is. I'm more than happy to have one since it means there's no demolition timer, but I often get new housing items (like from events or new content) that as much as I like them I can't use them because my apartment is completely full. A larger apartment or one possibly with rooms would be nice.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

Acquiring a house and keeping it are the challenges that one has to overcome and win over. Technically one mechanic to keep the house is to remain subbed so that's already paying to win so in the case of premium wards we might call it paying more to win, but this can be averted by the introduction of an improved instanced form of housing, that is always readily available, that even in the unfortunate event of a house demolition, the owner of the demolished property can simply purchase a new property with ease.

One, that's not what pay to win is. Two, that's not even accurate what you just said. You don't keep your house solely by paying for sub. You keep it by playing. If you don't log into the game, it doesn't matter how much money you've paid in subs, you lose your house.

As to instanced housing, I just go back to my other point. What is the return on investment for SE? Will instanced housing bring in new players. Are players leaving the game in large numbers due to the housing system. As i said, probably 2/3 of a server on average don't have houses. How many of these people actually care? Care about it more than new dungeons, new raids, new story missions. If they're getting subs for housing they could probably hire a developer or developers to work just on that. Otherwise, you're asking them to devote resources to an entirely new housing system, which may only be a priority to a small number of players.

[Big_Bap]

I should probably get this out of the way first, I genuinely had no intentions of responding to this thread, as.housing just is not an issue on my server, and others more or less gave my opinion, albeit not one to one, so I didn't feel I had anything to add. Your antics have been so crazy bonkers I couldn't help myself, so if you're a troll then you're a master of your craft because I played right into your hands

I wouldn't be wasting my time in this section, you'd find me in General making a new thread every single day if trolling was the reason why I'm posting on this forum. You see, a lot of people in this section are spreading misinformation or fail to provide complimentary information when a topic is brought up. I don't think it's intentional in most cases, but some certainly refuse to see facts, yet alone logic.

I've played this game non-stop since it was relaunched in 2013 and have been involved with Gilgamesh's market board and housing since. It also just so happen that my FC revolves around housing and compiles stats on it. Other than sharing accurate information, I'm here to set things straight when other players are being hypocrites with their agenda and to stand up for my friends and other multi-plot owners who prefer to remain silent due to the mob mentality that plagues this game when it comes to housing.

So thanks for the compliment, but no thanks.

As for why they're not the same, because playing the game isn't a problem. Nobody has ever said "man, I wish I could play the game, but I don't want to play the game". The developers did not create a problem to sell you the solution. That is not me defending the mog station,btw, I don't like it as a whole, but that's not the conversation we're having, just that those 2 things are not the same. Premium wards would literally be the devs creating a shortage of housing so they could sell you a house. That in my mind is the same as me poisoning you so then I could sell you the antidote, see how that might be a problem? Is it optional, sure, but its a piece of content that people want to play, but unlike other content, there is nothing you can do it there aren't houses available, and paying to circumnavigate that is a big problem, even if it were $0.10 a month I wouldn't like it.

Allow me to use your very own rhetoric to demonstrate that they are actually the same thing:

Jump potions/story skips would literally be the devs creating dozens upon dozens of fetch quests, unnecessary dialogue and a bloated story so they could sell you an alternative to skip it all. That in my mind is the same as me poisoning you so then I could sell you the antidote, see how that might be a problem? Is it optional, sure, but if you value your free time and want to join your friends who are doing relevant content, there is nothing you can do.

Regarding the last part of your post:

there is nothing you can do it there aren't houses available, and paying to circumnavigate that is a big problem, even if it were $0.10 a month I wouldn't like it.

There are thousands of houses available. Players purposely decide to ignore the options that are available to them. Saying there is nothing they can do is anything but true.

Care to elaborate?

Read the first answer: https://mewfc.com/frequently-asked-questions

[ERMITANYO]

@alyanna_elingval, my apologies if my statement was not clear, i wrote technically one mechanic (not the sole mechanic) to keeping a house is to remain subbed, you won't be able to game anyways or log in to enter your house if subscription is expired.

Also on the matter of pay to win, i definitely understand that this phrase is used to describe paying to gain some sort of an advantage over others in-game, but i just used it in the housing matter context my apologies if it seemed off point.

Finally, an improved form of instanced housing having improved aesthetics and functionality, that is always readily available will definitely help as it assures that there will always be housing for all even in the unfortunate event of a house demolition due to not logging in and entering one's estate, a home owner of a demolished home can easily purchase an instanced house and just try again to acquire a plotted house (if he/she is still interested). Instanced housing will sort of lessen the burden of having to think of ones subscription as well.

[Ftail]

Lol I hope the next Ishgard Restoration Works will have us build guillotines for these upper class Elezen players (just kidding). Even if OP had good intentions, to instantly propose $10 a month for a virtual house in a SUBSCRIPTION MMO shows how out of touch they are with the majority of the player base. When most people are struggling to make ends meet IRL to keep their REAL house it’s a bit ridiculous to wonder why there’s frustration aimed at you for basically begging SE for charge extortionate rates on top of their existing sub for in-game content. I’m sure SE has MORE than enough in their profit margins to upgrade housing without charging us even more, but they won’t give us that when there’s people practically throwing money at them without any care in the world since they don’t wanna be like the rest of the poor people.

Wrong. I have a crisis every time I have to buy something I don't need (i.e. isn't required in order to keep living, such as food, medicine, etc.), including subbing to this game. I'm always afraid I'm wasting money. So I'm fully aware that adding an extra price tag to the game just to have something that's already in it is stupid.

Also... how much do Kitkats cost where you are that makes two cost up to $10? That's absurd. Then again, you seem to make a point of moving goalposts and referring to things that were vaguely implied to be mentioned that we should be arguing against instead of the actual words people used, so you're not exactly a wealth of rationale.

Honestly, the people in this thread love pulling out the $10 a month when X amount of money was an arbitrary pricing. It could be $10 a month for a large or $1 a month extra, the point was to entice SE to fix the problem.

If you are struggling to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, you should probably prioritize that instead of playing a subscription based game. You have much larger issues in your life then a virtual optional house you can't afford but other people can.

[Ftail]

As to instanced housing, I just go back to my other point. What is the return on investment for SE? Will instanced housing bring in new players. Are players leaving the game in large numbers due to the housing system. As i said, probably 2/3 of a server on average don't have houses. How many of these people actually care? Care about it more than new dungeons, new raids, new story missions. If they're getting subs for housing they could probably hire a developer or developers to work just on that. Otherwise, you're asking them to devote resources to an entirely new housing system, which may only be a priority to a small number of players.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I proposed my idea. Of course, I want everyone to have a house without having to pay extra as my first choice. But, I was taking SE being a business into consideration first.

[Doozer]

Honestly, the people in this thread love pulling out the $10 a month when X amount of money was an arbitrary pricing. It could be $10 a month for a large or $1 a month extra, the point was to entice SE to fix the problem.

If you are struggling to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, you should probably prioritize that instead of playing a subscription based game. You have much larger issues in your life then a virtual optional house you can't afford but other people can.

Poor people shouldn't have things? You sound like the people that throw tantrums when they see a poor person with an iPhone. You ever hear of disposable income? Do I have the literal dollars to pay extra fees per month? Sure, for a little while. Does that mean it's a good thing for SE to implement or for me to spend my spare cash on? No. Forcing artificial scarcity in a game and then making the rest available for real life money to those who didn't horde all the houses as soon as they became available is disgusting, no matter the price tag.

The majority of players don't want this because they wouldn't be able to benefit from it, so don't bother hoping SE will ever do it.

[Ftail]

Poor people shouldn't have things? You sound like the people that throw tantrums when they see a poor person with an iPhone. You ever hear of disposable income? Do I have the literal dollars to pay extra fees per month? Sure, for a little while. Does that mean it's a good thing for SE to implement or for me to spend my spare cash on? No. Forcing artificial scarcity in a game and then making the rest available for real life money to those who didn't horde all the houses as soon as they became available is disgusting, no matter the price tag.

The majority of players don't want this because they wouldn't be able to benefit from it, so don't bother hoping SE will ever do it.

Wow... I'm honestly baffled you could think it's acceptable to twist what I said into "Poor people shouldn't have things".

If someone is struggling to put a roof over their head and have any disposable income to spend, people should prioritize their own well being first. This isn't some sort of condescending attitude, it's common sense. If someone has extra cash to spend, they are free to spend it here or elsewhere.

Your comments make you sound incredibly jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially.

[Doozer]

Your comments make you sound incredibly jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially.

Wow... I'm honestly baffled you could think it's acceptable to twist what I said into "I'm jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially".

...Sounds stupid, doesn't it? You can see what I said a certain way and then base your whole argument on that if you want, but my point still stands: you can't just tell people to stop subbing to the game if they're poor. That's literally what you said. You said to maybe not play a game with a monthly sub and focus on more important things. That sounds like someone saying poor people shouldn't have things. If you didn't want it to sound that way, maybe consider phrasing it differently.

Also, honestly, basically saying "you're jealous I have money and you don't" is really tacky. I'm sure you'll say I based that off nothing, but your post is right there for everyone to see what I'm referring to.

You also ignored the one thing I said that was about the topic at hand, which is "people don't want this". Funny that it's the one thing you ignored.