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    Quote Originally Posted by Cled-cat View Post
    Lol I hope the next Ishgard Restoration Works will have us build guillotines for these upper class Elezen players (just kidding). Even if OP had good intentions, to instantly propose $10 a month for a virtual house in a SUBSCRIPTION MMO shows how out of touch they are with the majority of the player base. When most people are struggling to make ends meet IRL to keep their REAL house it’s a bit ridiculous to wonder why there’s frustration aimed at you for basically begging SE for charge extortionate rates on top of their existing sub for in-game content. I’m sure SE has MORE than enough in their profit margins to upgrade housing without charging us even more, but they won’t give us that when there’s people practically throwing money at them without any care in the world since they don’t wanna be like the rest of the poor people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Wrong. I have a crisis every time I have to buy something I don't need (i.e. isn't required in order to keep living, such as food, medicine, etc.), including subbing to this game. I'm always afraid I'm wasting money. So I'm fully aware that adding an extra price tag to the game just to have something that's already in it is stupid.

    Also... how much do Kitkats cost where you are that makes two cost up to $10? That's absurd. Then again, you seem to make a point of moving goalposts and referring to things that were vaguely implied to be mentioned that we should be arguing against instead of the actual words people used, so you're not exactly a wealth of rationale.
    Honestly, the people in this thread love pulling out the $10 a month when X amount of money was an arbitrary pricing. It could be $10 a month for a large or $1 a month extra, the point was to entice SE to fix the problem.

    If you are struggling to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, you should probably prioritize that instead of playing a subscription based game. You have much larger issues in your life then a virtual optional house you can't afford but other people can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    Honestly, the people in this thread love pulling out the $10 a month when X amount of money was an arbitrary pricing. It could be $10 a month for a large or $1 a month extra, the point was to entice SE to fix the problem.

    If you are struggling to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, you should probably prioritize that instead of playing a subscription based game. You have much larger issues in your life then a virtual optional house you can't afford but other people can.
    Poor people shouldn't have things? You sound like the people that throw tantrums when they see a poor person with an iPhone. You ever hear of disposable income? Do I have the literal dollars to pay extra fees per month? Sure, for a little while. Does that mean it's a good thing for SE to implement or for me to spend my spare cash on? No. Forcing artificial scarcity in a game and then making the rest available for real life money to those who didn't horde all the houses as soon as they became available is disgusting, no matter the price tag.

    The majority of players don't want this because they wouldn't be able to benefit from it, so don't bother hoping SE will ever do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Poor people shouldn't have things? You sound like the people that throw tantrums when they see a poor person with an iPhone. You ever hear of disposable income? Do I have the literal dollars to pay extra fees per month? Sure, for a little while. Does that mean it's a good thing for SE to implement or for me to spend my spare cash on? No. Forcing artificial scarcity in a game and then making the rest available for real life money to those who didn't horde all the houses as soon as they became available is disgusting, no matter the price tag.

    The majority of players don't want this because they wouldn't be able to benefit from it, so don't bother hoping SE will ever do it.
    Wow... I'm honestly baffled you could think it's acceptable to twist what I said into "Poor people shouldn't have things".

    If someone is struggling to put a roof over their head and have any disposable income to spend, people should prioritize their own well being first. This isn't some sort of condescending attitude, it's common sense. If someone has extra cash to spend, they are free to spend it here or elsewhere.

    Your comments make you sound incredibly jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    Your comments make you sound incredibly jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially.
    Wow... I'm honestly baffled you could think it's acceptable to twist what I said into "I'm jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially".

    ...Sounds stupid, doesn't it? You can see what I said a certain way and then base your whole argument on that if you want, but my point still stands: you can't just tell people to stop subbing to the game if they're poor. That's literally what you said. You said to maybe not play a game with a monthly sub and focus on more important things. That sounds like someone saying poor people shouldn't have things. If you didn't want it to sound that way, maybe consider phrasing it differently.

    Also, honestly, basically saying "you're jealous I have money and you don't" is really tacky. I'm sure you'll say I based that off nothing, but your post is right there for everyone to see what I'm referring to.

    You also ignored the one thing I said that was about the topic at hand, which is "people don't want this". Funny that it's the one thing you ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Wow... I'm honestly baffled you could think it's acceptable to twist what I said into "I'm jealous of anyone who's not struggling financially".

    ...Sounds stupid, doesn't it? You can see what I said a certain way and then base your whole argument on that if you want, but my point still stands: you can't just tell people to stop subbing to the game if they're poor. That's literally what you said. You said to maybe not play a game with a monthly sub and focus on more important things. That sounds like someone saying poor people shouldn't have things. If you didn't want it to sound that way, maybe consider phrasing it differently.

    Also, honestly, basically saying "you're jealous I have money and you don't" is really tacky. I'm sure you'll say I based that off nothing, but your post is right there for everyone to see what I'm referring to.

    You also ignored the one thing I said that was about the topic at hand, which is "people don't want this". Funny that it's the one thing you ignored.
    I don't disagree with the statement that people don't want this. I even stated so before. However, I couldn't ignore the stupidity in your other points that had to be called out.

    I'm speaking about people who can't afford a roof over their head, and you state "you can't just tell people to stop subbing to the game if they're poor". There's a huge difference between being poor and being close to homeless. Prioritizing a video game over your own well being is not wise. Suggesting otherwise just sounds stupid, doesn't it?

    Earlier in my life when I was still in college, I couldn't afford to pay my power bill, so they came and shut off my power to my apartment. I ended up having to make sacrifices, I quit gaming for a time including canceling my FFXIV subscription. I had to prioritize my well being over enjoying expensive luxury hobbies like gaming. Telling people I said, "Poor people shouldn't have things" is completely disingenuous.

    You pulling a single comment of mine to showcase like an achievement after taunting me with your previous comments shows exactly the kind of individual you are. Honestly you aren't even worth my time, have fun writing more provoking comments in the forums to people to get a rise out of people, I'm done with you.
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