Switching jobs while in a duty

[Avidria]

Never outside of Heroic/Mythic raiding. In LFD/LFR, I encountered people queuing as tank or healer and then not filling that role more times than I can count. It's hard to say which was more common between the two roles doing this, but it was frequent.

I haven't played in a while, but in my experience when that happened it either a) wasn't a problem because the group was geared enough and/or good enough that comp didn't even matter or b) the person who queued and failed to actually perform their role was asked to swap or kicked. I think I saw maybe one or two groups where it actually became a big problem? In dungeons anyway. Healers not healing in lfr was sure a thing, but I mean hey, it's a problem in FF too in my experience :P Had more problems because of different flavors of idiocy than that over the years that's for sure. In both games.

Anyway it'd be nice to be able to do this at least in premade groups. Had a full premade ex roulette the other day where we accidentally queued with two healers wasn't really a problem and we finished the run reasonably quickly (blood for the the blood lily!) but still would've been nice if one of em could've swapped without having to drop out and requeue.

[Maero]

Palace of the dead you could do this if i recall, but i would not agree with having implemented across other content.
People just need to learn how to play the roles they so choose.

[Deceptus]

I wouldn't mind a small section at the very start where you can switch between the role you signed up as and are the proper level for.

For example if you go into a duty and there's already a sch and you chose one as well, you can switch to WHM or AST.

[Bsrking5]

Palace of the dead you could do this if i recall, but i would not agree with having implemented across other content.
People just need to learn how to play the roles they so choose.

Nope, it works like all other Content. In fact floor progress is locked to a certain class/job.

[Bsrking5]

I wouldn't mind a small section at the very start where you can switch between the role you signed up as and are the proper level for.

For example if you go into a duty and there's already a sch and you chose one as well, you can switch to WHM or AST.

I'd rather not because this would certainly be used to force the most meta builds and kick people who don't or can't.

[SamRF]

I'd rather not because this would certainly be used to force the most meta builds and kick people who don't or can't.

You can't kick under 5 minutes though.

[SamRF]

Nice non-sequitur. I thought we where talking about switching roles in dungeons. Not “muh healer deeps”. It’s almost like you don’t have any answer to most of my criticisms, like how this affects non multi-classers. You have just clung on to “the meta” comment from my initial post and focused on nothing else.

METa = Most Effective Tactics

"Meta" is the crux of your arguments. People being forced to multi-class is also "meta" that is being enforced. I gave example of people barely pointing out lack of healer dps as an indicator that people in this game don't care enough about meta (and ability to multi-class) to enforce it on PUG groups.

[Bsrking5]

You can't kick under 5 minutes though.

That wouldn't stop people kicking for that, it would just be 5 minutes of people trying to force meta before kicking. People still try and force Meta on older content.

[Awha]

I would be a fan of this only if the exp went towards the class you queued with. It would be helpful have ran into far too many groups leveling dps where either the tank or healer complain about gear, pull size etc . . . and at times I wish I could just switch to either tank or healer so people would stop complaining about the tank or healer not conforming to a certain metric.

[SamRF]

That wouldn't stop people kicking for that, it would just be 5 minutes of people trying to force meta before kicking. People still try and force Meta on older content.

The person you replied to suggested that you should only be able to switch in short section at start of duty. After 5 minutes you won't be able to switch jobs anyway under that suggestion, are people going to kick anyway because they didn't comply at beginning? If they also made it so you can't switch job when you join duty in progress, there will be no good reason to kick them other than petty frustration. Some bitter people may do that but think it's gonna be rare to have a successful vote kick.