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  1. #61
    Player
    Halivel's Avatar
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Sagittarius
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    PotD and HoH both save your progress based on the class/job you joined as. If anything, they're the only places this can't happen.
    True. The said feature could be somewhat useful there though, if saving of the progress didn't exist or worked in another way.
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  2. #62
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    Hatfright's Avatar
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    Sono Faolain
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    Spriggan
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I see where it's coming from, but I don't think it's a good idea.
    I don't want an ESO expirience, where people with any spec can queue as whatever role. It was somewhat managable on early dungeons if people had good selfsustainance or hight damage builds to get a pass to DPS disgused as healer or tank, but later on? Not so much. (At least that was the issue a year or so back, don't know how it's goin now.)
    There will be people trying to get lower waiting time, and if you kick them, there's no guarantee you don't get another one cheesing. Judging how often people aint even reading chat or straight up not cooperating at all, this will be a problem. I want to finish a duty, not spend time arguing about how the group should proceed, thank you.
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  3. #63
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Reminder that in WoW, the two opposed factions are literally not allowed to speak the same in-game language because, waaaaaay back in the original beta when the Horde's Undead race spoke Common, it was used exclusively for griefing and trolling, so they made up an excuse language called Gutterspeak for the Undead to patch the problem.
    I mean, people still found ways around that limit to troll, grief and... Rp sometimes actually, I think? Was usually more funny than anything but yeah. Mostly trolly.

    Then again, I'm pretty sure Void Elves can still speak Thalassian. Not sure what the results of that have been, but definitely interesting to do on Blizzard's part.

    PvP communities in general seem to be a more polarized mix of mostly chill cool people, and RAHHHHH SLAUGHTER THE ENEMY FACTION SCUM, and "lul these lowbies can't finish their quests cause I killed all the NPCs >:3" type people in my experience. Maybe just the extremes stand out more in that kind of competitive environment, I dunno lol
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    Last edited by Avidria; 03-27-2020 at 08:32 PM.
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  4. #64
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    Kiro Isamu
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    Zodiark
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    Marauder Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    I'm certain you are a troll at this point.
    No I just didn't understand the point of that post or in what way it's relevant to that argument. Clarify it instead of calling me a troll.
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  5. #65
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I think if they had restrictions in place it would be helpful to be able to switch jobs in dungeons / trials. For Example when the Tank leaves a the beginning of a dungeon before you even load in. Restrict it so only one person could do it say once every 5 mins. Can only change roles and only if there fewer than 4 people. 8 for trials.
    At that point it would just be better to disband and requeue in most cases so this wouldn't actually help much if at all.
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  6. #66
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    Galbsadi Nailo
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    Halicarnassus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I could see swapping jobs within a role as making sense, or even swapping jobs in a fully pre-made group.

    For queues, however, I don't see the merit (but would see a LOT of merit in being able to queue up as multiple jobs for a roulette...i.e. I don't care if I tank or heal or DPS, I just want to get this dungeon over with because raid time starts in 30m type of scenario.)
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    In WoW role queue bypass pretty much only happened in leveling content.
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  8. #68
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I love to be able to switch to crafting job in a duty when waiting on a healer or tank that's left or afk.
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  9. #69
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I'm sitting on a good situation in which to allow this:
    when someone DC's, let everyone in the group switch jobs to anything that qualifies for the duty and isn't already a filled role.

    So, if you lose your healer in a dungeon, someone could switch to that, but they couldn't switch to tank or DPS (unless one of those switched to healer - thus opening the vacancy up).
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  10. #70
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I think it's an excellent idea. One of the major selling points for FFXIV is the ability to play every job on a single character. It'd be nice to see that element of the game embraced more often.
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