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    Meanwhile im just sitting here really wanting all of the Viera hairstyles. They made SO MANY for Viera - What would be so difficult about it for them to add all the existing hairstyles to viera, and add all the viera hairstyles to every other race? Is it the ears? If it is, why? Aura and Miquote already have ears that intersect hairs and as they showed in the recent artwork stream they even make unique concept art for the lalafell/elezen helmets and miquote helmets to account for their ears...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Meanwhile im just sitting here really wanting all of the Viera hairstyles. They made SO MANY for Viera
    I wouldn't really call less than ten a lot. Sure it looks like more but half of them are just slightly different versions of one another, so in reality there isn't as many as it seems. They are nice, but not really numerous.

    That said...! Other hairstyles that other races have should also have similar options to viera, and by that I mean being able to choose to have bangs or no bangs for some hairstyles.

    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    What would be so difficult about it for them to add all the existing hairstyles to viera, and add all the viera hairstyles to every other race? Is it the ears?
    I think hrothgar is part of the problem. You know players would be very unhappy if viera got a big style update if hrothgar did not. SE are probably waiting until they can give both races an update at the same time.

    All this waiting would be much easier if SE said more than "we're working on it" over and over again. Show us some concept art or something. Give us something to look forward to!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I think hrothgar is part of the problem. You know players would be very unhappy if viera got a big style update if hrothgar did not. SE are probably waiting until they can give both races an update at the same time.

    All this waiting would be much easier if SE said more than "we're working on it" over and over again. Show us some concept art or something. Give us something to look forward to!
    I can only speak for myself but as a Hroth player I couldn't care less about "being left out" since I know for a fact they're working on updating the race eventually. Hrothgar's customization is...problematic, but Viera really shouldn't have any issues regarding hair or even hats. This whole deal of treating both races as a single item only makes Viera players and those who like them to resent Hrothgar more than they already do for taking male Viera's place - as if we needed to feel even more unwelcomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I can only speak for myself but as a Hroth player I couldn't care less about "being left out" since I know for a fact they're working on updating the race eventually. Hrothgar's customization is...problematic, but Viera really shouldn't have any issues regarding hair or even hats. This whole deal of treating both races as a single item only makes Viera players and those who like them to resent Hrothgar more than they already do for taking male Viera's place - as if we needed to feel even more unwelcomed.

    I don't feel that way! People should blame SE for doing hrothgar dirty! Hrothgar deserve to exist too!

    Did you draw that hrothgar picture? I LOVE IT! But don't be so sad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    :gives sad kitty a kiss on the nose:
    Don't be sad, not all of us rabbit-players resent Hrothgar!
    I for one love the lion-men since the devs posted back in SB-times the screenshot of a dapper exemplar with glasses -- and I spent my first day in 5.0 with blowing kisses at each Hroth I saw.

    Edit: Which drawing-program was used for the picture, if I may ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Meanwhile im just sitting here really wanting all of the Viera hairstyles. They made SO MANY for Viera - What would be so difficult about it for them to add all the existing hairstyles to viera, and add all the viera hairstyles to every other race? Is it the ears? If it is, why? Aura and Miquote already have ears that intersect hairs and as they showed in the recent artwork stream they even make unique concept art for the lalafell/elezen helmets and miquote helmets to account for their ears...
    Unfortunately it's kind of just an illusion that we have a lot of styles. Of the 17 total, there are only actually 8 unique shapes. Not sure how that stacks up to the other races... but we actually even have a style with three variations on the exact same general hair shape. One adds a tiny bit of bangs, the other adds that metal 'helmet' (the only other difference on the helmet one being it seems to have very slightly more volume?? It's almost unnoticeable though). Every other style is doubled with a slight variation.

    And the style I'm using clips pretty badly into our shoulder while idling xP Luckily most gear hides that pretty well but it is kinda funny seeing a spike just poke out of my collarbone sometimes.

    Compare to the 51 total hairstyles I can use on fem Miqo'te. Only 6 of which are duplicates if I'm counting correctly... I see one style with four variations, and three with two variations (headband style, Y'shtola style, pigtails, and the long one that comes with optional bangs).

    So 8 "unique" styles vs. 45 - and that's at character creation, not the aesthetician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Unfortunately it's kind of just an illusion that we have a lot of styles. Of the 17 total, there are only actually 8 unique shapes. Not sure how that stacks up to the other races... but we actually even have a style with three variations on the exact same general hair shape. One adds a tiny bit of bangs, the other adds that metal 'helmet' (the only other difference on the helmet one being it seems to have very slightly more volume?? It's almost unnoticeable though). Every other style is doubled with a slight variation.

    And the style I'm using clips pretty badly into our shoulder while idling xP Luckily most gear hides that pretty well but it is kinda funny seeing a spike just poke out of my collarbone sometimes.

    Compare to the 51 total hairstyles I can use on fem Miqo'te. Only 6 of which are duplicates if I'm counting correctly... I see one style with four variations, and three with two variations (headband style, Y'shtola style, pigtails, and the long one that comes with optional bangs).

    So 8 "unique" styles vs. 45 - and that's at character creation, not the aesthetician.
    Yeah. That's exactly how it is, bangs or no bangs. The clipping is a HUGE issue with viera hairs. they definitely will frequently stab through your body. Still, I like your hair, and the viera styles I like, I really like.

    51? Wow.. that really puts it into perspective how many hairs viera don't have..

    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    At the beginning I was more understanding. I don't like the current system at all and as a customer I was expecting a less rushed product but whatever. I had trust in YoshiP.

    Nowadays my patience is waning. I recall him saying that designing/coding armour takes like half a year (at least). Hair can't be that different. It's been how many months now since ShB released? And still we get nothing? Not even a more substantial feedback as 'please look forward to it'?

    Stop half-assing, SE. Either give it to me properly or don't bother. You're not an indy dev nor is this an early alpha.

    At this point I'm actively wishing for a 2nd calamity come the PS5. lol Sorry for the rant, everybody. o/
    It's going to be longer too! I really hope we see something soon for viera/hrothgar. Even if it is just a WIP.
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