Ocean Fishing Abandoning

[Fair_Enuf]

I'm honestly surprised this hasn't already been patched out, but why is it that with an already long 2 hour wait timer, we have to deal with toxic players who are leaving the second there isnt a spectral proc by the 2:30 time remaining mark? They need to be locked out of re-queueing for abandoning at MINIMUM until the next boat, but ideally for 12/24 hours to minimize people leaving.

It makes no sense that non time-limited content like dungeons that you can quickly re-queue for is more penalizing than something people can do only once every 2 hours. I don't know the exact fix, but something honestly needs to be done about it.

[Mhaeric]

I'm more annoyed by the people who give up partway through and just AFK. At least the ones who leave aren't reducing further spectral chances.

[Sandoria]

Not sure why there isn't a deserter debuff on this like other dungeons.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I was under the impression there wasn't a negative effect when people left, I've seen people still get the points for the mount after everyone bails. Is there a legit reason to be upset by this?

[Mhaeric]

I was under the impression there wasn't a negative effect when people left, I've seen people still get the points for the mount after everyone bails. Is there a legit reason to be upset by this?

Less people fishing equals less opportunity for a spectral fish to be caught and lead to a proc and a greater likelihood to receive fewer score bonuses at the end of the run since that's mostly based off of numbers of fish caught. The fewer chances for a spectral fish being caught is somewhat offset by the higher chance of a spectral proc happening if someone does catch a spectral fish, but I don't know if it's completely offset or not. The fewer bonus thing is not offset at any rate.

If someone just afks instead of leaving, not only are they not providing any chances of a spectral fish catch or contributing to score bonuses, but they also block the extra chance of a spectral proc in the event that a spectral fish is caught.

[Theodric]

Yeah, less people in a party equals less bonuses. I'm not a huge fan of how ocean fishing was setup. The RNG on top of RNG is frustrating enough, though I also dislike being beholden to other players in a group in FSH related content when there's no real time to chat and be social.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Less people fishing equals less opportunity for a spectral fish to be caught and lead to a proc and a greater likelihood to receive fewer score bonuses at the end of the run since that's mostly based off of numbers of fish caught. The fewer chances for a spectral fish being caught is somewhat offset by the higher chance of a spectral proc happening if someone does catch a spectral fish, but I don't know if it's completely offset or not. The fewer bonus thing is not offset at any rate.

In that case, if there was a penalty, wouldn't people just afk if things didn't go the way they wanted? Then you'd have less chance of proccing spectral and a lower bonus anyway cuz they didnt fish.

(I haven't done ocean fishing more than twice, got my mount on the 2nd go)

[Mhaeric]

In that case, if there was a penalty, wouldn't people just afk if things didn't go the way they wanted? Then you'd have less chance of proccing spectral and a lower bonus anyway cuz they didnt fish.

(I haven't done ocean fishing more than twice, got my mount on the 2nd go)

Yes. The only reason they leave now is that by leaving they can still enter a second queue in the 15 minute window and try again. This is why I'm more annoyed by the people who afk.

As for seeing people still get the achievement even if people leave, there's two things that might be happening. Probably both. Bonuses are party based, so if the people leaving aren't in their party then they're not being as affected as much as other people. Also, one party bonus is a 50% boost on top of whatever other bonuses your party builds up if you happen to catch 3 5-star fish as a group. Add that to a personal 5-star catch if you're one of the 3 and reaching a base of 5,000 points and you have a 90% bonus just from those three. Add the other bonuses your party racks up and scores can multiply pretty high with some luck. If you ever see most people at 6-7k and three players at 12-13k this is likely what happened. I'm assuming at any rate, since it's yet to actually happen to me. I'm just basing that off of the possible numbers that could happen in a run.

[Fawkes]

It kinda seems like the content was designed for dropping and requeuing. Especially the achievements for the titles, you can leave and get a different boat with different weather, and the weather impacts what fish are catchable. They could have just made the weather a fixed thing like time of day is, if they didn't want to encourage people to try again for a better boat.

[KageTokage]

The simplest fix would just be to prevent people from attempting to board another ship within the same time window.