Smoking emote.

[Dakuryon]

I've actually had the "be thrown in water to learn to swim" treatment as a kid. That's how I got a permanent phobia of deep water/open water that's not by the shore. I swear, some people should just stop it.

I am deeply sorry that happened to you, hun </3 Nobody should ever have to experience that. And yes, people truly do need to stop with the destructive mindset of believing that forcing people to face their phobias will help them. It's more likely to cause harm and more damages than anything.

[Joven]

It is juice....Fermented grape juice!

Jokes aside, I dont understand the conflation between a game and real life going on from the opposition to the emote. If the argument is "Well this will promote smoking to children" then we got to remove a lot of things from the game. Even then, I think there's this weird concept that kids are too stupid to understand the difference between a game and real life. I was a kid once too, and I played my fair share of games that had smokers. I dunno about anyone else but I sure didnt sit there and think "gee, this video game guy smokes so I will too!" If anything, kids pick up smoking either to fit in to social groups typically or as a possible status symbol, not because they saw it on a piece of media. When I was a kid it wasnt cool cause Joe Camel smoked or because some action hero lit one up. Its cool cause its defying the rules and being rebellious. This also just plainly ignores societal counter pressures, or that smoking is in decline. So I dont buy into the "If we put this emote into video games, all of a sudden theres gonna be a surge of child smokers."

If the argument is it supports bad health habits cause smoking is gross, yeah well the game does a lot of that already and probably worse. This is the same concept of violent videogames makes everyone violent mass murderers. It's a BS argument. I do a lot of terrible things in game healthwise, like jump off cliffs or stand in fire, and I dont go doing that in real life. Or the weird one where we say "Nah, second hand smoke man!"...in a videogame. We've been LITERALLY gassed in this game among other things, and were thinking about second hand smoke?

Look, if you have personal reasons why you dont like smoking, thats cool. I have my own reasons too. But part of the fun of fantasy and RPGs is living a bit vicariously through avatars. You dont have to get the emote if you dont want it. But demanding no one else gets it cause "Muh reasons" is stupid. It's literally denying other people an aspect they think would be fun because of your own personal scruples. If they have a smoke emote, it shouldnt be any of your business. Dont get it if you dont want it. As I mentioned before, if its mogstation exclusive, then thats that. Even more reason why you dont have to have it.

^this^

I grew up in the 80s and 90s when smoking was considered 'cool' and never had the urge to smoke. I thought it was disgusting. When I was in my late 20s I decided to take up pipe smoking because I liked the 'intellectual' look of it and because pipe tobacco doesn't typically have the same chemicals as cigarettes and you don't inhale it. Either way it was my choice and not decided by any form of media or peer pressure.

[SamRF]

That is nice Lol, it makes them learn the hard way that there is no reason to fear the spider or the snake those two creatures only attack people who desever it anyways if you don't mess with them they won't mess with you.

Also, you're right, it is common, but the common man is inferior to those of us who know there is no reason to fear any animal.

Its about teaching them the hard way the same way to teach someone who can't swim how to swim you throw them in sink or swim is a great teaching method.

And nop your incorrect.. the world and nature doesn't cuddle with people its a harsh reality that the fear is Pathetic and should get over the fear.

Phobias are one of the easiest pscyche maladies to treat (with behavioral therapy). You overcome a phobia by gradually exposing yourself to it. Overexposure from the start will cause unnecessary stress and can make the phobia even worse.

However, after you've succesfully overcome a phobia, it will come back relatively fast if you stop exposing yourself to it, meaning that you basically have to regularly expose yourself to the (former) phobia or go back to behavioral therapy at regular basis. This proves that phobias are something that is ingrained and can't be cured long term, it can only be kept at bay.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

Phobias are one of the easiest pscyche maladies to treat (with behavioral therapy). You overcome a phobia by gradually exposing yourself to it. Overexposure from the start will cause unnecessary stress and can make the phobia even worse.

However, after you've succesfully overcome a phobia, it will come back relatively fast if you stop exposing yourself to it, meaning that you basically have to regularly expose yourself to the (former) phobia or go back to behavioral therapy at regular basis. This proves that phobias are something that is ingrained and can't be cured long term, it can only be kept at bay.

I believe it can be with long term exposure to whatever the fear is.. to teach that there's no need to be afraid of it. However, regardless the game has many spiders and snakes so yeah.

Which is why as much as a jerk as it makes me sound I believe it would really help the person get over the fear.

I highly doubt anyone has done a year long study of exposure 24/7 for 365 days and I'm willing to bet that would break it so they are no longer afraid.
Regardless the point remains.. In fantasy it doesn't matter if you don't like X thing, then avoid it for whatever reason. I hate machines and high technology, but I still put up with 95% of the game being mecha fights.

[Vahlnir]

I believe it can be with long term exposure to whatever the fear is.. to teach that there's no need to be afraid of it. However, regardless the game has many spiders and snakes so yeah.

Which is why as much as a jerk as it makes me sound I believe it would really help the person get over the fear.

I highly doubt anyone has done a year long study of exposure 24/7 for 365 days and I'm willing to bet that would break it so they are no longer afraid.
Regardless the point remains.. In fantasy it doesn't matter if you don't like X thing, then avoid it for whatever reason. I hate machines and high technology, but I still put up with 95% of the game being mecha fights.

I mean, more exposure to what one fears MIGHT help some people, but like anything it is likely not the same for everyone with a phobia. Everyone requires a different approach. In small doses over a period of time (and with an increase of the time one spends with it) the fear might be conquered. Saying "here you go, good luck and have fun" and leaving them to basically fend for themselves is kinda...wrong. And no, I don't think you are correct in your train of thought. Well, not entirely. Like I said, it might work for some, but everyone is different. I'd also like to consider it as simple human compassion to not throw someone into what they fear and leave them there. Things aren't going to be fixed so easily, and in all likelihood it would just make things worse. You were on thin ice with one of your previous posts already. Doubling down on your ideology won't help, but you have taken a less...intense tone with this post so I guess it's a step in the right direction.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

Except for all the death, war, alcohol, drug use, the strip club in eulmore, human trafficking, child soldiers, prostitution, the npcs who can be already seen smoking.

Yeah. Totally family friendly.

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On the surface the game looks a lot more colourful and cutesy than most Western mmos- but when you follow the story and see all the themes,

not to mention making a fairly significant villain not just a prostitute but being sold into it, just consider how prickly people get over anything non-consent related in the west, and then to make the victim a villain is pretty close to the most taboo thing you can do

it's considerably darker than almost everything else, and it compounds that by putting many traits that should be heroic only backstories onto villains and vice versa.

Anyway- topic at hand. There's doubtless enough regulations around it to greatly dissuade it- yes, a major villain of course does so, and as people have brought up LotR has plenty of smoking and its a fairly modern, family oriented movie. I'd prefer something more like that, whether a pipe like Gandalf's or Yotsuyu's, since it looks more fantasy like- don't think I'd wanna see anything akin to cigarettes.

[Puc]

I would love my character to have a long type of pipe or a cuban cigar as they chill and blow the smoke upwards. Or to make it more "mild" have it blow bubbles instead.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

That is nice Lol, it makes them learn the hard way that there is no reason to fear the spider or the snake those two creatures only attack people who desever it anyways if you don't mess with them they won't mess with you.

Also, you're right, it is common, but the common man is inferior to those of us who know there is no reason to fear any animal.

Its about teaching them the hard way the same way to teach someone who can't swim how to swim you throw them in sink or swim is a great teaching method.

And nop your incorrect.. the world and nature doesn't cuddle with people its a harsh reality that the fear is Pathetic and should get over the fear.

Humanity is at its most scientifically educated in history yet there's still people that believe this in defiance of common sense and millions of combined hours of research.

Sink or swim not only is not a great teaching method- it's not actually a teaching method in the most literal sense. You yourself don't actually have to know how to swim in order to throw someone into a river, and there's nothing suggesting you will suddenly learn a skill you do not possess if placed in a situation of life or death. Anyone who drowns is in a literal sink or swim situation, and people drown so using your chosen method you'd basically just be murdering people. Even if they survive, they may develop a very rational fear of deep water, rational because they quite reasonably could have died.

As for your baffling methods for treating phobias- again, there's plenty of research by intelligent minds, and all of it shows you're not only incorrect but your unsupported thoughts on the matter would only make things worse. Exposure therapy tends to take considerable time and builds up slowly.

Putting a spider on someone who is terrified of spiders is something you might expect from a nine year old, but generally people develop common sense and enough empathy to realize why that's the behaviour of a cruel child and not a well adjusted human being some time during their teenage development years.

[Krotoan]

.. ok if smoking is disgusting can we have a Garlean Vaping device then?

[Jandor]

I would love my character to have a long type of pipe or a cuban cigar as they chill and blow the smoke upwards. Or to make it more "mild" have it blow bubbles instead.

A pipe that blows bubbles, or even some kind of magical effect. lol I could get behind that idea