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    Quote Originally Posted by sauc View Post
    Lotta people here ignoring the part he said ''optional''. I would have 100% have leveled through just spamming dungeons,fates,collecting bear asses etc like all other mmos. The msq made me quit in 2013 and nearly made me quit again, alot of us couldn't possibly care less about a story and just want to play an mmo. The rest of you would lose out on nothing. All I see is ''I want to force you to go through something you don't want to because I liked it and so should you.''

    But as it's already been said they sell story skip potions so it won't ever be an option sadly. It's mere existence means there's enough people who don't want to do it and they figured they could cash out on it.
    Not at all, completely got that the first time around, but the other part of that statement was free, and that is the part that I feel would be detrimental to the character of the game.
    There is no demonstrable need to "widen" or "expand" the playerbase by appealing to those who do not actually want to play a Final Fantasy MMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangadget View Post
    Not at all, completely got that the first time around, but the other part of that statement was free, and that is the part that I feel would be detrimental to the character of the game.
    There is no demonstrable need to "widen" or "expand" the playerbase by appealing to those who do not actually want to play a Final Fantasy MMO
    Are you saying that people who play the game simply because it has the final fantasy name would quit in droves if it was optional? Seems like a rather petty reason. Even if it did I doubt it would make the number of people who quit greater than the number of people the game would keep thanks to the msq. I don't think it's a secret to anyone that the msq and the extremely slow combat at the start are huge player retention killers. Those 2 things are among the most repeated criticism of the game.

    But as I said already: potion skip. That alone likely tilts the pros over cons to square. Well that and they are likely unable to change it even if they wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauc View Post
    Are you saying that people who play the game simply because it has the final fantasy name would quit in droves if it was optional? Seems like a rather petty reason. Even if it did I doubt it would make the number of people who quit greater than the number of people the game would keep thanks to the msq. I don't think it's a secret to anyone that the msq and the extremely slow combat at the start are huge player retention killers. Those 2 things are among the most repeated criticism of the game.

    But as I said already: potion skip. That alone likely tilts the pros over cons to square. Well that and they are likely unable to change it even if they wanted to.
    No, what I am saying is that if the game lost focus on the story, and if the playerbase only increased significantly because of a large influx of players who don't care about the story, the character and nature of the game would change such that, yes, a large portion of the existing fanbase would likely leave
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangadget View Post
    No, what I am saying is that if the game lost focus on the story, and if the playerbase only increased significantly because of a large influx of players who don't care about the story, the character and nature of the game would change such that, yes, a large portion of the existing fanbase would likely leave
    It wouldn't lose it's focus, all of it would still be there.
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    Agree to disagree.
    If the story became entirely optional, freely and with zero investment by the prospective player, I believe that the game would start to lose focus on the things that make it special due to ill conceived attempts at catering to the other things the not-actually-a-Final-Fantasy-fans would want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangadget View Post
    Agree to disagree.
    If the story became entirely optional, freely and with zero investment by the prospective player, I believe that the game would start to lose focus on the things that make it special due to ill conceived attempts at catering to the other things the not-actually-a-Final-Fantasy-fans would want.
    I doubt they would suddenly fire all of their writers or suddenly put them on designing murderhobo sidequests but I guess if you feel they might then there's not much left for us to talk about.
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