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  1. #61
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Something has occurred to me.

    OP made this thread about wanting to prepull mobs as a healer. Most responses clapped back saying that wasn't his job, it's the tank's job. He has conceded that the community clearly dislike when healers do this but still does not understand why.

    And now he makes a thread complaining when non-healers heal.

    Honestly I can't figure out if OP is somehow clueless about some things, or very good at trolling.
    Thank you, i was wondering if it was the same person or I remembered wrong.
    So either they're butthurt from the replies there or really good at trolling or both.
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  2. #62
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    YatoShishi's Avatar
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    Say'ri Anderson
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    ive only seen rdm using vercure when nothing is under controll. also if you feel insulted by someone using vercure and clemency i think your the problem.
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  4. #63
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    RDM's have always been about white and black magic and a healing spell (vercure) has always been a part of their skillset.
    And? That doesn't mean they have to have now, and they have other spells to fill the white magic side. It doesn't even fill the white Mana side either so it's not critical to job to have but it is a major reason why it's so low on the dps for casters.
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  5. #64
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YatoShishi View Post
    ive only seen rdm using vercure when nothing is under controll. also if you feel insulted by someone using vercure and clemency i think your the problem.
    Thats pretty much all clemency and RDM are
    Insurance
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  6. #65
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Something has occurred to me.

    OP made this thread about wanting to prepull mobs as a healer. Most responses clapped back saying that wasn't his job, it's the tank's job. He has conceded that the community clearly dislike when healers do this but still does not understand why.

    And now he makes a thread complaining when non-healers heal.

    Honestly I can't figure out if OP is somehow clueless about some things, or very good at trolling.
    With the first thread I thought maybe he was just clueless. Combined with this thread I'm convinced he's an elaborate troll or just a narcissist who thinks everyone should stay in their lane. Except for himself of course--he can do whatever he wants in the name of "efficiency".
    (6)
    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

  7. #66
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    With the first thread I thought maybe he was just clueless. Combined with this thread I'm convinced he's an elaborate troll or just a narcissist who thinks everyone should stay in their lane. Except for himself of course--he can do whatever he wants in the name of "efficiency".
    Neither are great to be honest...might be time for me to start looking the other way then this person posts.
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  8. #67
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Mateus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Something has occurred to me.

    OP made this thread about wanting to prepull mobs as a healer. Most responses clapped back saying that wasn't his job, it's the tank's job. He has conceded that the community clearly dislike when healers do this but still does not understand why.

    And now he makes a thread complaining when non-healers heal.

    Honestly I can't figure out if OP is somehow clueless about some things, or very good at trolling.
    I honestly think he's trolling at this point and he knows exactly what he's doing. Like, how did he expect this thread to go when he's practically asking to remove a skill from both RDM and PLD that basically makes their class what they are? (i.e. RDM has always been about white and black magic, while PLD has always been about being a knight and healing) Not only that, they're great skills when you need them in a pinch.

    It's one thing if healers are having a hard time healing for whatever reason and the RDM and the PLD are helping with healing. It's another when they're using their healing abilities repeatedly out of nowhere when it's clear no one needs healing.
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  9. #68
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Clemency could perhaps use a nerf; I've seen PLDs solo dungeon bosses for half their HP after the rest of the party dropped. And they have by far the best invulnerability too. That kinda makes me question my role as healer. On the other hand a PLD can't really keep others besides themselves up if the boss has frequent partywide damage, nor is Clemency enough for mass trash pulls.

    I don't feel insulted if the PLD uses Clemency though. I play healers very aggressively and don't always keep everyone topped up if I know the boss and its abilities well, so it's understandable that a skittish PLD might prefer to heal themselves every once in a while. It just means I can use an extra GCD on damage. An RDM using Vercure is a bit more questionable since their damaging abilities are better than mine so the trade does not pay off. Still not insulted though.
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  10. #69
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    ChocoFeru's Avatar
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    Choco Feru
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 92
    I still need Clemency to compensate the no-heals from healers. Also it's useful to keep everyone alive when the healer dies.
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  11. #70
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    You also need to understand that a RDM doesn't necessarily use Vercure to heal himself due to lack of heal.
    If there is a down time and a boss is about to come back to the field, you can Vercure in advance so you have an instant cast ready for when the boss is back.
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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