Holy now a bannable spell.

[Brandedblade]

pretty light show I mean if you don't want to see it don't sit there and watch it its your own fault if your being "spammed by a spell effect"


Sadly its not the game the majority of todays gamers are nothing but little crybabys over everything and to make things worse the spineless staff on games any more just suck it up and say well this person was a crybaby and complained we have no choice but to ban.
Really, I don't blame the game when the real problem is todays gamers are basically babies like they haven't been in high school or something and deal with real issues instead of fantasy world ones.

Why are you people like this????

[MitsukiKimura]

Think the GM's need to be educated on the difference between spamming chat logs and abilities. Though I agree spamming Holy the brightest and loudest spell IS annoying, it's not on the same page of the ToS of spamming. Probably would of given a warning instead of a account penalty.

[Lilseph]

From what I remember from that reddit thread, the guy who got banned for spamming Holy joined a bunch of people who were also doing it. Someone asked if they could stop spamming and pretty much everyone except the guy stopped. If I recall, he admitted to attempting to "trigger" said person despite people telling him to stop. It wasn't that the guy was banned for spamming Holy for fun; he was banned because he harassed the guy who asked him to stop by apparently following him around and spamming Holy next to him.

[Vidu]

Think the GM's need to be educated on the difference between spamming chat logs and abilities. Though I agree spamming Holy the brightest and loudest spell IS annoying, it's not on the same page of the ToS of spamming. Probably would of given a warning instead of a account penalty.

This is the reason the ToS are written so "wiggly": So that GMs can look at a situation and judge wether what happend here is something that under the given circumstances warrant an action or not.
If only things that are mentioned explicitly in the ToS would be something they could do something about, trolls would quickly find the thin line they could walk to not get banned but still on peoples nerves.
If the spamming of an ability is done with ill intentions or in a place where it doesnt belong (for example a city) why is it so different from chatlog spam? Its both annoying, it both follows the same principle, is often done for no other reason but to annoy people - and in theory you could turn both off, since this is being mentioned again and again in this thread (but you probably dont want to turn off your chatlog - just as much as people dont want to adjust their effects-setting just on the account of one person being annoying). Why should the spamming of an ability (for no other purpose than spamming that ability, aka: no mobs to kill with holy - crafting and melding always serve a purpose beyond spamming) be treated differently than chatlog-spam?

[Saefinn]

From what I remember from that reddit thread, the guy who got banned for spamming Holy joined a bunch of people who were also doing it. Someone asked if they could stop spamming and pretty much everyone except the guy stopped. If I recall, he admitted to attempting to "trigger" said person despite people telling him to stop. It wasn't that the guy was banned for spamming Holy for fun; he was banned because he harassed the guy who asked him to stop by apparently following him around and spamming Holy next to him.

I would be interested in a source here if you can remember where it was, because this is actual context, the thing people are missing.

If, as, this suggests he was doing it to harass somebody, then it's not specifically for spamming and people's melodrama pushes the whole thing out of proportion, but rather spamming was the means, and harassment is something they are cracking down on. As a second offense, a 3 day suspension might be suitable because players shouldn't be going around harassing others and a second offense means the first warning (especially if for a similar issue) was not enough to get this guy to behave himself.

[Lilseph]

I would be interested in a source here if you can remember where it was, because this is actual context, the thing people are missing.

The actual thread got taken down unfortunately, but pretty much people were raising their pitchforks before the thread went down when they figured out what was going on.

[Raim]

Remember when a JP player posted logs where a GM banned them for linking their nsfw Twitter in their search history and people believed it for years until it was proven false and admitted that the op did it for Twitter followers?

There's probably more to this holy story, I don't by 'that they just saw 3 players spamming it and decided to join them'

Wait that was fake? Tell me more.

[SturmChurro]

From what I remember from that reddit thread, the guy who got banned for spamming Holy joined a bunch of people who were also doing it. Someone asked if they could stop spamming and pretty much everyone except the guy stopped. If I recall, he admitted to attempting to "trigger" said person despite people telling him to stop. It wasn't that the guy was banned for spamming Holy for fun; he was banned because he harassed the guy who asked him to stop by apparently following him around and spamming Holy next to him.

Told you guys, if this is true. SO INNOCENT! Didn't do anything wrong!

[Wavaryen]

Told you guys, if this is true. SO INNOCENT! Didn't do anything wrong!

I mean just spamming the spell in the city to annoy people the guy is guilty. So this is just icing on the cake. Lol.

[QT_Melon]

The actual thread got taken down unfortunately, but pretty much people were raising their pitchforks before the thread went down when they figured out what was going on.

It also didn't help that people or sockpuppet accounts were spamming the issue in non related threads and making petitons. I guess people thought it was for 21 days?

The ban was TIL the 21st lol. The ban may have occurred on the 17th before the patch, but not 21 day ban.