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    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    They're not solely opinion based matters but they do serve some of that purpose. Hell, if turning glams off meant everyone appears as their default class outfits thats some processing power you're saving if your PC or your internet is on the lower end. Disliking a glam probably wont wipe your party but it makes co-existance in a social based game more difficult
    If your pc has so much trouble running the game to the point that it noticeably benefits from putting all players in the same outfit, then you need a new pc. Any gaming rig that has this particular issue with glams would have horrific performance in combat even with all the graphical settings down as low as possible.

    Spell animations are significantly more taxing than clothing. I have a really good pc but in some fights my fps can drop for a brief moment due to the amount of spell effects going on (usually during a boss's ultimate attack or something of that nature), but I get zero performance issues even on the busiest days in the busiest towns. Earlier today the whole server was on top of msq npcs in several zones, and my pc didn't even hiccup in the slightest, but it can during some specific moments in combat.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    Disliking a glam probably wont wipe your party but it makes co-existance in a social based game more difficult
    You actually guarantee that people will have more difficulty co-existing if you allow them to remove glams from their view. Because when they go to another online multiplayer game they will be too used to living in a bubble that shielded them from the dreaded fashion choices of other players.

    You cannot learn to co-exist with others if you refuse to acknowledge their different choices in appearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You cannot learn to co-exist with others if you refuse to acknowledge their different choices in appearance.
    You seem to fail to understand what co-existing means. Co-existence doesnt even require actions, its the absence of aggression which would put the existence of the other in danger.
    Looking away when seeing something offensive does not threaten the existence of someone else, it merely allows for both players to continue existing without incident.
    Reporting someone over something offensive, like a man in a dress or a south american ghost, directly threaten their existence. It is an act of violence intended to remove someone. A digital murder if you like. It doesnt matter if rules are the rules, most if not all suspensions stem from user report and the current way the Terms of service are written, extreme intolerance is encouraged and rewarded. People are losing access to the game over a sound/special effect and its being celebrated or apologia is made aplenty for. Thats not co-existence, thats not tolerance.
    Its enthusiastic digital murder.
    Thats why I'm always going to be in favor of user tools to help them tailor their social experience as it is better than to cut someone from the game over the slightest thing and call it progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    Looking away when seeing something offensive does threaten the existence of someone else
    This is only the case if that something is potentially dangerous. Glams...are not dangerous.

    Does your arm hurt from reaching that far?


    The player told me they made a typo so the above response is no longer necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    Reporting someone over something offensive, like a man in a dress or a south american ghost, directly threaten their existence.
    This is very interesting.

    You have perhaps confessed that you find men in dresses offensive. Maybe this is why you're in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    This is only the case if that something is potentially dangerous. Glams...are not dangerous.

    Does your arm hurt from reaching that far?
    Typo, its late and I'm tired.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    This is very interesting.

    You have perhaps confessed that you find men in dresses offensive. Maybe this is why you're in this thread.
    I'm refering to my two examples from earlier, if you're going to argue at least do it in good faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    Typo, its late and I'm tired.
    Fair enough, it happens to us all at some point. I'll edit my post to make it clear I responded to something you had not intended to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    I'm refering to my two examples from earlier, if you're going to argue at least do it in good faith.
    Are you trying to paint glam removal as some sort of saviour against reporting certain glams because people could turn them off? Look if this is the point you want to make I understand what you are getting at, but you seem to grossly overestimate the amount of people who would report this. If this was a real problem threads would be popping up all the time about seeking glam removal. And they would have been doing so for years at this point.

    Just look at this thread, it's the same handful of people arguing over and over again. If you were around when Shirogane launched or when 24 mans briefly had greed only on loot rolls, you would have seen what it is like when a large number of players are outraged. Especially with Shirogane, you couldn't escape anything about it. It was even on gaming news sites, it was so bad.

    Most players frankly don't give a toss about other people's glams. Why? Because it doesn't affect their personal gain in the game. That's literally it. The 24 man and Shirogane issues were essentially some manner of a loot problem (people wanted their goodies) but someone else's glam has no effect on what loot/possessions you can earn in the game.

    The fact of the matter is, OP's suggestion is not only unnecessary to aid in game performance (because as I said before a pc that needs this would be unable to handle combat) it is also unnecessary to maintain harmony because for the most part no one cares how you look, as long as you don't take their loot. It doesn't make sense for SE to spend time and money making a feature that only a tiny amount of people would genuinely use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Most players frankly don't give a toss about other people's glams. Why? Because it doesn't affect their personal gain in the game. That's literally it. The 24 man and Shirogane issues were essentially some manner of a loot problem (people wanted their goodies) but someone else's glam has no effect on what loot/possessions you can earn in the game.

    The fact of the matter is, OP's suggestion is not only unnecessary to aid in game performance (because as I said before a pc that needs this would be unable to handle combat) it is also unnecessary to maintain harmony because for the most part no one cares how you look, as long as you don't take their loot. It doesn't make sense for SE to spend time and money making a feature that only a tiny amount of people would genuinely use.
    Fair enough,

    It could be seen as a niche issue not worth attending given the tech challenge and limited ressources. At least there's always the option to mingle with local files for those who really want it and thats probably going to be the only option for the foreseeable future anyway.
    I'm happy to concede over that argument.
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