It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Penthea]

Someone was recently given a suspension for existing in a public place while using a spell and it was considered harassment.

That was for spamming Holy in a town. Holy is one of the biggest, brightest and loudest spells in the game. And the spamming happened in a zone where it serves zero function (unlike crafting, penta melding, etc) because obviously there is nothing hostile to attack.

Show us a glam just as enormous, bright and loud, and then maybe mentioning that incident might have some relevance in this thread.

Apples and oranges. Glams do not have the individual spamming power of something spectacular and enormous like Holy, which can easily take up most of your screen even if you're zoomed out.

[RognarB]

Apples and oranges. Glams do not have the individual spamming power of something spectacular and enormous like Holy, which can easily take up most of your screen even if you're zoomed out.

Someone got their account suspended over someone else not using the tools at their disposal and would rather cleanse the offender. There's no option to tune down or disable glams and yet they are permanently on until the user glams them out. I'm arguing for something similar to effects possible for glamours as well.

[Penthea]

Someone got their account suspended over someone else not using the tools at their disposal and would rather cleanse the offender. There's no option to tune down or disable glams and yet they are permanently on. I'm arguing for something similar to effects possible for glamours as well.

You do realise these options are for combat and game performance functionality, right? Spell effects can prevent you from seeing something that can kill your character. Reducing the intensity of spell effects can make less powerful pcs run the game smoother.

Is there a glam in the game that can blind you so much you might die in a fight? Is there a glam that can negatively affect the performance of your pc?

He was just expressing himself. Who are you to censor him? He was just existing.

I'm not even going to waste a post responding to someone willfully ignoring the difference between clothing and a gigantic spell. So enjoy this edit if you do see it.

[Zabuza]

That was for spamming Holy in a town. Holy is one of the biggest, brightest and loudest spells in the game. And the spamming happened in a zone where it serves zero function (unlike crafting, penta melding, etc) because obviously there is nothing hostile to attack.

Show us a glam just as enormous, bright and loud, and then maybe mentioning that incident might have some relevance in this thread.

Apples and oranges. Glams do not have the individual spamming power of something spectacular and enormous like Holy, which can easily take up most of your screen even if you're zoomed out.

He was just expressing himself. Who are you to censor him? He was just existing. Just turn your camera away.

I'm not even going to waste a post responding to someone willfully ignoring the difference between clothing and a gigantic spell. So enjoy this edit if you do see it.

You don't need to respond. I just find it funny how it's cool when you want to censor something server side but not when we want to censor something only client side.

[RognarB]

You do realise these options are for combat and game performance functionality, right?

Not only that, these options makes public areas much more pleasant to navigate as well. Not being bombarded with things I'd rather not see makes for a better experience. The same option for glamours would do the same.

[Penthea]

Not only that, these options makes public areas much more pleasant to navigate as well. Not being bombarded with things I'd rather not see makes for a better experience. The same option for glamours would do the same.

But you do concede that there isn't a single glam in the game that can obstruct your vision in combat, or negatively affect the performance of your pc, right?

SE put in those options for spells to give players an easier time to perform in the game, whether it's to reduce overlapping flashy spells in combat making dangerous things easier to spot, giving their crap pc a break, or both. These serve real functions that can dramatically change the outcome of combat. They're not for solely opinion based matters like "damn this glam offends me, I wish I could turn it off" or "I feel like being the only well dressed person on the server today".

Again...apples and oranges. Disliking how a glam looks isn't the same as risking dying in combat because spells block your view of a telegraph or make your fps drop.

[Sairys]

Someone got their account suspended over someone else not using the tools at their disposal and would rather cleanse the offender. There's no option to tune down or disable glams and yet they are permanently on until the user glams them out. I'm arguing for something similar to effects possible for glamours as well.

Actually, what you're pointing out is why this is a waste of the devs time.

The effects setting at least has a functional use of making it possible to run the game on lower end machines and even when people have the option available to them they'll complain about the behaviours of others rather than using it.

[Kraniel]

Isn't it part of the MMO experience to encounter people with silly looks in a dungeon ?
Don't get me wrong, i'm not against this idea, since it won't change anything for me, but i think that the original issue is that there should be RP-dedicated servers (just like on other MMOs). In my opinion the reason this is happening is because all servers are mixing every type of player, so those who are here for the immersion have to put up with the silly glamours.

But then again, even on an RP server, someone could just say that they are a super strong hentai-cyborg and go with it. Maybe that's their story, and maybe they'd find it immersive, for all you know ...

[RognarB]

They're not for solely opinion based matters like "damn this glam offends me, I wish I could turn it off" or "I feel like being the only well dressed person on the server today"

They're not solely opinion based matters but they do serve some of that purpose. Hell, if turning glams off meant everyone appears as their default class outfits thats some processing power you're saving if your PC or your internet is on the lower end. Disliking a glam probably wont wipe your party but it makes co-existance in a social based game more difficult

Actually, what you're pointing out is why this is a waste of the devs time.

The effects setting at least has a functional use of making it possible to run the game on lower end machines and even when people have the option available to them they'll complain about the behaviours of others rather than using it.

The problem doesnt lie in the tools but in the people using them (or not). I personally find that reporting someone for something you could easily solve on your end to be extremely intolerant and selfish, removing someone else from play is different than shielding yourself from someone.
I feel that the GMs only enable those ridiculous suspensions because there's an intolerant mass begging for the cleansing of things and people they dont like rather than using tools to customise their experience thus protecting themselves from offense.

[Doozer]

I just want to chime in real quick on some people's defense of turning off glamours... you keep saying to turn off battle effects if stuff like the Holy spam bothers you so much, but if I remember (since I do have battle effects off for other players), don't they still make noise? And honestly, Holy is one of the worst sounding spells in the game. It almost gives me flashbacks to ARR when a WHM in Halatali (Hard) would spam Holy and let the tank die.

So uh, I don't think that's the best defense.