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    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    They're not solely opinion based matters but they do serve some of that purpose. Hell, if turning glams off meant everyone appears as their default class outfits thats some processing power you're saving if your PC or your internet is on the lower end. Disliking a glam probably wont wipe your party but it makes co-existance in a social based game more difficult
    What's your basis for this assertion?
    The game would still be ultimately loading in a bunch of customisations and would still need to have all of the assets ready to go in case you just flipped it.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    The problem doesnt lie in the tools but in the people using them (or not). I personally find that reporting someone for something you could easily solve on your end to be extremely intolerant and selfish, removing someone else from play is different than shielding yourself from someone.
    I feel that the GMs only enable those ridiculous suspensions because there's an intolerant mass begging for the cleansing of things and people they dont like rather than using tools to customise their experience thus protecting themselves from offense.
    Realistically, if that tool existed for the purpose you appear to believe it does then the GM response would have been to just use it.

    You also keep complaining about stuff like people begging for the cleansing of things they don't like... this is what you're doing, you're asking to be able to, selectively or en masse, cleanse Eorzea of appearances that offend you, to pretend to yourself that those people don't exist and instead that everyone dresses in ways you deem appropriate, kinda ironic heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    What's your basis for this assertion?
    The game would still be ultimately loading in a bunch of customisations and would still need to have all of the assets ready to go in case you just flipped it.
    A simple guess, we're dealing with an awful lot of spaggeti code but I cant imagine having a default state has to be this terrible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    Realistically, if that tool existed for the purpose you appear to believe it does then the GM response would have been to just use it.
    Blacklisting is a tool that specifically allows you to control the communications you have and yet its still possible to be suspended over being rude, simply because its in high demand in the current social climate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sairys View Post
    You also keep complaining about stuff like people begging for the cleansing of things they don't like... this is what you're doing, you're asking to be able to, selectively or en masse, cleanse Eorzea of appearances that offend you, to pretend to yourself that those people don't exist and instead that everyone dresses in ways you deem appropriate, kinda ironic heh.
    The difference is that it would only affect he user's perception, rather than actively removing people from the game or infringing on their ability to glam as they see fit. You are not cleansing the sun by wearing shades, you just protect yourself from its harmful rays.




    The only valid point is that it would differ development time where some clientside meddling can easily fix some of it. There's already a mod out there that "removes" lalafels from the game, anyone enterprising enough could easily mod out the outfits they dislike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    A simple guess, we're dealing with an awful lot of spaggeti code but I cant imagine having a default state has to be this terrible.
    Cost vs benefit, if a lot of players were complaining about performance issues and it would actually help, they'd probably have done it.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    Blacklisting is a tool that specifically allows you to control the communications you have and yet its still possible to be suspended over being rude, simply because its in high demand in the current social climate.
    Because that behaviour is still against the rules regardless of whether or not you can blacklist it away. Really, the blacklist seems more of a stop-gap until a GM can come in and sort it out rather than some way to enable such people to play the game while acting the way they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    The difference is that it would only affect he user's perception, rather than actively removing people from the game or infringing on their ability to glam as they see fit. You are not cleansing the sun by wearing shades, you just protect yourself from its harmful rays.
    I don't know about you, but I'm not pretending the sun doesn't exist by wearing sunglasses lol, It's more along the lines of Arkangel from black mirror, that episode where one of the negative effects of such a thing was impairing personal growth.

    Quote Originally Posted by RognarB View Post
    The only valid point is that it would differ development time where some clientside meddling can easily fix some of it. There's already a mod out there that "removes" lalafels from the game, anyone enterprising enough could easily mod out the outfits they dislike.
    I mean, if you really want an example of demand, given people haven't been mentioning such a mod already exists, can't be too many people wanting the feature lol.
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