Tanks Not Using Emnity Skill.In Dungeons

[Schan]

We should be able to report these players who intentionally refuse to commit their role and troll entire team.

There's a kick feature and a report button. I would probably qualify it under harassment and mention that they are keeping the party hostage if they bring a buddy that denies the kick.

[AngelCheese77]

When I am healing and I see this, I ask them to leave tank stance on as it's not a toggle.

If they continue, I ask one more time (usually by this time the DPS say something).

If it continues, I eat the 30 minute penalty and go fishing. Not worth my time or frustration.

[RitsukoSonoda]

I've job changed to tank from a non tank job for something like expert roulette and ran through grabbing the first large pull before noticing I forgot to turn on tank stance.

I think its more disturbing I've done this on occasions and not noticed tank stance was off until the pull was dead because I wasn't actually loosing enmity to DPS. Makes me think they aren't doing their job since my name isn't Maple and I haven't sunk all my stats into defense to the point I'm immune to any damage a boss deals and can kill it by eating it... >.>

[Frosthaven]

I've definitely slipped on not enabling it after sync turns it off once or twice. Both times I just got "tank stance" in chat and turned it on replying "thanks". Pretty amicable and smooth after.

[Sophie_Lo]

I have a tank enmity-related question that I suppose here is as good as anywhere, and may sound horribly noobish, as I'm not a tank player, usually. Say I am the off tank in a trial, and the main tank obviously has their enmity on. Do I bother turning mine on at all during the fight, save for any adds that appear? I only ask because I've been told in trial to do so by some, and not to do so by others, leaving me somewhat confused and second guessing myself. >.<

[Mesarthim]

I have a tank enmity-related question that I suppose here is as good as anywhere, and may sound horribly noobish, as I'm not a tank player, usually. Say I am the off tank in a trial, and the main tank obviously has their enmity on. Do I bother turning mine on at all during the fight, save for any adds that appear? I only ask because I've been told in trial to do so by some, and not to do so by others, leaving me somewhat confused and second guessing myself. >.<

You can easily just turn it on when needed and provoke if the other tank dies. Very few bosses in this game have a mechanic that targets the top two enmity, rather than purely tank roles.

Otherwise you can leave it off if you're not actively tanking.

[Sophie_Lo]

That's what I thought, but just wanted to be sure. Thank you! :3

[Moonlite]

Also remember while it has changed. What about all the old guides floating around about proper tanking and making sure you don't lower your dps by having it on. It is not like those guides are updated every expansion. Or the glass is half empty and they are trolls.

[Schan]

I have a tank enmity-related question that I suppose here is as good as anywhere, and may sound horribly noobish, as I'm not a tank player, usually. Say I am the off tank in a trial, and the main tank obviously has their enmity on. Do I bother turning mine on at all during the fight, save for any adds that appear? I only ask because I've been told in trial to do so by some, and not to do so by others, leaving me somewhat confused and second guessing myself. >.<

Depends on the fight. Some mechanics have a tank buster that will target the person with the second highest emnity (aggro) in the list. If it's the off tank you pop a cooldown, if you let a DPS take it they'll probably get badly hurt. I like to start the fight without tank stance and turn it on after a few attacks have been used.

When i'm with randoms i sometimes try to build as much aggro as possible so i can shirk to the MT since you never know with random tanks and I figured any help giving them an emnity lead would be nice. However this is still very much debatable since me and my friends are constantly debating this. A lot of people consider it a ahole move to rip aggro off the MT straight off the bat despite the intention being to help them generate a bigger emnity lead in the long run. Probably an old fashioned mindset from when shirk was first introduced and keeping tanks off the tank stance was the main goal if you wanted to push dps in end game content /shrug

[Mhaeric]

Keeping it on as the off tank is okay to do, assuming you go a few rounds without it to let the main tank build up a buffer so you don't accidentally pull hate when you don't want it. Keeping it on like this makes it marginally easier to pick up hate if the main tank happens to die, since it will likely automatically turn to you. That said, it's not necessary by any means since it takes at most a single GCD to get hate if that happens when you haven't been using it. There is some content that requires both tanks be at the top of whatever enmity lists there are, but most don't.

tl;dr - use tank stance as OT or don't, either works for most content.