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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth View Post
    'Well *I* don't see that many people using the *insert 2B or bunny suit sets here* so obviously they were not a big deal and so I don't see why the devs should waste their time on this whole gender-gear issue.'
    Most people I know who use the items that have become unrestricted, like the 2B attire or the bunny suit, tend to use them in private.

    No matter what, the gender issue will never go away, but at least SE is making a conscious effert to make things fair, I think. I personally feel the only reason this is an issue at the moment is because a vast majority of people who play female characters are stating they don't like the dress, even before they can try it on. And people who advocate for "gender equality" are quick to point out that the male version of something is actually unique by comparison, this time.

    But how unique is it really? It's just another suit jacket with slacks; but it does feel like more effort was put into it so it would feel "less plain". The difference being though, that dress physics tend to vary, whereas the suits tend to remain the same, so people have an easier time visualizing the male outfit over the female one.

    The bottom line is this, people's personal preferences aside. Modeling for each race and gender takes time, except for lalafells since they "share" a model. But, we are being given two gender-locked outfits, both of which look like they were give equal time and effort in designing. That is equality. No matter what people are gonna find something to complain about, it similarly happened with the Spriggan outfit too. I think females complained the top was "closed" and they got shorts and "stockings" again. Guys on the other hand were happy to get another capri style pant. But no one can deny that this is SE being fairer then they have in the past.

    Two things of note I wanna mention that I remember seeing.

    One, I think I saw someone mention gender locked hairstyles, besides the recent Ivalice hairstyles, I dont think any hairstyle has been gender locked since before Heavensward's release or a little after if anything.

    And Two, I think the main reason Y'shtola got a new outfit over some of the other Scions isn't because they wanted to make more female glamd, it has more to do with her being FFXIV's poster child; so she will always get the "good shite" lol.

    EDIT: I hate my phones auto correct.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 01-28-2020 at 01:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    One, I think I saw someone mention gender locked hairstyles, besides the recent Ivalice hairstyles, I dont think any hairstyle has been gender locked since before Heavensward's release or a little after if anything.
    That was me.

    The hairstyles aren't actually locked but the ones added as HoH/Eureka prizes were more likely to appeal to female characters, and originated in the hairstyle design contest as female designs.

    People complained about this favouring female characters, even though the equivalent male entries were already in the game for free - and adding the female ones as rare rewards meant that (1) it was harder to get them and (2) people who got it and didn't want it - eg. because they had male characters - could potentially make gil selling it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That was me.

    The hairstyles aren't actually locked but the ones added as HoH/Eureka prizes were more likely to appeal to female characters, and originated in the hairstyle design contest as female designs.

    People complained about this favouring female characters, even though the equivalent male entries were already in the game for free - and adding the female ones as rare rewards meant that (1) it was harder to get them and (2) people who got it and didn't want it - eg. because they had male characters - could potentially make gil selling it.
    It's not a "fair" comparison by any means, but the equivalent hairstyles were added to PvP and the Ishgard Restoration. Far easier than HoH or Eureka, but there is still a barrier.

    The ones you are referencing are, Gyr Abanian Plait(HoH) and Form and Function(Eureka). The equivalent hairstyles are Style for Hire(PvP) and Modern Legend(Ishgard). All 4 are the contest hairstyles.

    Here is a list for anyone interested in locating any hairstyle.

    https://ffxivcollect.com/hairstyles
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    Last edited by Eloah; 01-28-2020 at 01:56 AM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.