Valentione's Day Items

[reivaxe]

Gents got the 2B dress and I have seen like 2 male characters wear it. I have seen zero guys wear the bunny costume since ShB launched. Why exactly does a 1% minority need the same amount of glamour as normal people? It takes resources and we probably wouldn't get two versions of an outfit. We didn't get a masculine counterpart for the level 1 cosmetic 2B set, for example.

Yeah, I see both sides of this.

Like, I KNOW the reason I'd like for items to not be gender-restricted is because I play a female. I would LOVE to have the choice between a dress and that spiffy vest. But asking for that is laterally asking them to work twice as hard on this event gear by making 2 outfits that everyone can wear. And really, how many male characters are ever gonna go for the dress?

Then there's the issue with the 2B outfit cases. Like, people can go "YAY, progress!" all they want for getting a crossplay glam for guys but ... what about the vast majority of male players&characters who have no interest in their character wearing a 2B dress? I've legit seen people upon release of the raid talk about how they rolled on it expecting to get some cool male version of 2B glam only to find that they have a crossplay and ended up being very let down by it cause they would never wear that. Like with this event, if they just made a dress that both genders could wear then yay ... right? But what about people who don't want to dress their dude up in a dress? Nothing that appeals to them?


I feel like this is something better done on the side. Like, data-miners know that they have worked on unrestricting a number of currently restricted glams that they just haven't unlocked yet so perhaps they're having a side team work on it or it's just really low on their list.

[Zysets]

Then there's the issue with the 2B outfit cases. Like, people can go "YAY, progress!" all they want for getting a crossplay glam for guys but ... what about the vast majority of male players&characters who have no interest in their character wearing a 2B dress? I've legit seen people upon release of the raid talk about how they rolled on it expecting to get some cool male version of 2B glam only to find that they have a crossplay and ended up being very let down by it cause they would never wear that. Like with this event, if they just made a dress that both genders could wear then yay ... right? But what about people who don't want to dress their dude up in a dress? Nothing that appeals to them?

Honestly idk, the actual raid jobs function similarly as a cool variants of the outfits based on 9S for guys, and I feel like the coffer at the end will get equivalents for other Automata characters in the following parts of the raids. I mean the 2B dress is great but I really prefer having 9S' outfit as a girl, it doesn't really bug me cause lots of friends with both male and female characters are having a good time with it to this day, and I'm fairly certain I'll get what I want in the 2nd or 3rd parts of the raid. *shrugs*

I understand having this special drop be ultimately useless to you stinks but not everything will work for you, there's tons of rarely used pieces of glam items and gear that are also gender restricted.

[reivaxe]

Honestly idk, the actual raid jobs function similarly as a cool variants of the outfits based on 9S for guys, and I feel like the coffer at the end will get equivalents for other Automata characters in the following parts of the raids. I mean the 2B dress is great but I really prefer having 9S' outfit as a girl, it doesn't really bug me cause lots of friends with both male and female characters are having a good time with it to this day, and I'm fairly certain I'll get what I want in the 2nd or 3rd parts of the raid. *shrugs*

I understand having this special drop be ultimately useless to you stinks but not everything will work for you, there's tons of rarely used pieces of glam items and gear that are also gender restricted.

"the actual raid jobs function similarly as a cool variants of the outfits based on 9S for guys" this seems fairly disingenuous. Like, say there simply wasn't a coffer at the end ... sure, all the female gear is based on 2B but people would still be asking for the direct 1:1 2B glam. And though I also assumed that we would get 9S glam for the next part there's no guarantee of that. This whole raid is unprecedented (never have we even had dye-able 24 men raid gear or even a special glam coffer for example)
This coffer drop might just be a 1 time deal to please everyone who wanted 2B glam by putting it in the raid people will have to run more than any other (to better the chances of everyone getting it) with the next raid being a mount in place of the coffer and the one after that being a 2B hair style. OR they could make other iconic females glams like A2.

Anyway, my point was that this is a fairly uneven issue.
Gendered versions of gear is there to appease as many as possible. So I see unrestricting them as something that could and should be worked on in the background as opposed to doing twice the work at the time of release OR having a 2B glam problem with events where a clearly female glam leaves a large portion of dude characters thinking they got nothing.

[Brynne]

The new developer blog post says that we can buy the opposite-gender gear from the seasonal shop if we want it. So no worries about retainers and squads and such.

[Shinklet]

Devs make the most high-effort event in the last year and everyone whines about not being able to play with their little dress-up dolls.

[Alestorm]

Hopefully those who feel strongly about the issue decide to vote with their wallets and take their leave of the game altogether.

Things like this almost ruin the entire discussion. Rage quotting the game over glamour is ridiculous.

Honestly it never fails when we have an event with no glamour people get upset, and when we do people here still complain. If you don't like the outfits then don't do the content.

[StriderShinryu]

Yes, because the same people that work on creating costumes for the seasonal events are the same ones who work on creating the next Ultimate...

[Angus-Beef]

Yes, because the same people that work on creating costumes for the seasonal events are the same ones who work on creating the next Ultimate...

Funny because thats the sad reality, they dont have a big team, and FF7R is where most of the Money FFXIV makes is going. Fun Fact the chocobo racing guy is currently making our raids now.

[Alleo]

So people who would love to have the other outfit for their character because it would look better on them should vote with their wallet and leave the game..hmm I hope that those saying that will remember such a thing when they accuse the devs again about females getting better glamours and posting about it. Because in the end both are topics just about glamour. But I guess as soon as its about people wanting the male options for their females, they are the bad guys..

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

I don't get the point in having three different colors when they all look exacly the same outside of dye and they are dyeable lol