In Defence of DPS meters.

[Shurrikhan]

And this reply is why they are against it. Your assumption is that someone who is struggling is lazy.

Would you prefer "self-sabotaging"? "Lacking consideration of others' time"? Being new to X content is one thing, being rusty another, and getting PKed something further still, but if you consistently can't even combo appropriately or use CDs by level 80, it's almost always going to be some shade of one of those three. Again, the key here is basic competency by the latest in basic content (e.g. level 80 dungeons), the beginnings specialized competency in the beginnings of specialized content (e.g. level 80 Savage), and a fair bit of specialized competency by the time you join a E4S farm group, for instance.

"Be (relatively) prepared," for short.

The bar isn't high here. If I can perform just fine through mouse-based movement and button-clicking alone while text-chatting with my FC and talking with my roommate and my party being none the wiser to it, it takes some manner of laziness or intentional underperformance to be unable to perform even half that well.

That could be an unwillingness to deal with whatever inhibitions you have that dissuade you from testing yourself through learning (self-sabotaging). That could be an unwillingness to spend effort on principle "because it's just a game" (lacking consideration / laziness). That can be a desire to prioritize other things, and believing that engaging fully with performance means you must be losing out elsewhere (lacking consideration / self-sabotaging). It can be a twisted logic that tells you that if you go fast, you'd be "disrespecting" the content (self-sabotaging). Whatever. But all of that stems from being unwilling to fully engage with what's happening or improve one's performance. Sure, we could break down the minutia, but the labels are generally accurate, even if not superfluously precise.

a) make it just for savage content

b) if no - then at least block savage behind dummy target test, where player need to do perfect rotation with food, melds, potions, ( at lest newcomers will know what button to press and adapt it in actual fight )

a) Then you deny the majority of players a useful self-improvement tool. Believe it or not, we casual players like knowing things, too.

b) That's fair. And one can always do both.

[Elladie]

Would you prefer "self-sabotaging"? "Lacking consideration of others' time"? Being new to X content is one thing, being rusty another, and getting PKed something further still, but if you consistently can't even combo appropriately or use CDs by level 80, it's almost always going to be some shade of one of those three.

"Be (relatively) prepared," for short.

The bar isn't high here. If I can perform just fine through mouse-based movement and button-clicking alone while text-chatting with my FC and talking with my roommate and my party being none the wiser to it, it takes some manner of laziness or intentional underperformance to be unable to perform even half that well.

I really don't know what to reply to this.

I am happy for you that you can chat in text and hold a conversation and run a dungeon, but I certainly can't. I am far from lazy, I work hard to learn scripted fights and job rotations. I am aware of my shortcomings - mainly caused by directional dyslexia which means muscle memory takes much longer to build and learning mechanics takes a very long time indeed - and so I play healers mostly since I don't have worry about a rotation so much. I'm not stupid either - I have a masters degree - and I understand tool tips and so on. I also agree that a personal parser is a valuable learning tool. But as long as it remains true that I would be called out as a lazy player and told to 'git gud' and then be accused of having 'fragile feelings' when I give what are valid reasons for my issues, then SE are never going to give those kinds of people the tools to further that behaviour.

As I said in my original post, I'm not denying there are lazy players. Just as there are people who can't be bothered to type proper words and sentences or use proper grammar or express themselves in such a way that their point is clear, concise and not offensive. Both kinds of behaviour are annoying and disrespectful. But so is assuming that laziness or stupidity are always the cause. And attacking someone who responds with 'I'm not lazy, the problem is x,y or z' by saying they have 'fragile feelings' as another poster did is actually pretty outrageous

[Fellgon]

Just as there are people who can't be bothered to type proper words and sentences or use proper grammar or express themselves in such a way that their point is clear,

I undestand english, but im not good enouth to create an argument, that can be writen in 1 or more paragraph. So i can write short answers.