Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
Sadly you're going to get that no matter what tho. Gamers here have proven that most of the things asked for in practice they do not want.
This is the wrong way to look at it. What actually happened was that many were happy, but others were not. Those who weren't were vocal, perhaps because they were the majority. The fix is simple, let them avoid the duty. This is why Savage works. It doesn't exist in roulettes, it's up to the player to take part.

Noone actually wants random stuff in dungeons, or harder content cause when we did get it people all over the forums cried for nerfs.
Constant threads like this show the opposite. There is a clear demand for harder content. It just needs to be added in a way that doesn't interfere with players who are looking for a more casual experience.

I will never forget Rath. That alone had people crying when it gave people what they asked for.
The trial also received praise for those very same things.

As for a defense for deep dungeon. Solo it.
This does help with the challenge aspect, although your ability to solo will vary drastically based on what class you play (or can play). It also means you're not playing in a group setting, which is one of the appeals of a MMO.

The fact that VERY few people have proves people dont actually want this stuff.
Or that there are issues with it, like excluding cooperative play and limiting class viability.

It literally has everything people claim to want. If more people actually did this instead of cry for nerfs when a boss yawns bigger -mist dragon- I think we would have harder dungeons. Until then..... the 2k page thread gets bigger and people stay bad.
If deep dungeons were the answer, this thread wouldn't exist. You're oversimplifying things way too much, maybe because the type of content being asked for doesn't interest you. That's completely fine, but if you think one piece of difficulty content is equivalent to any other and the details don't matter, you can't really tell me that what I want is already in the game. It's not.