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  1. #21
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    2. Rewards are only this good because Cutscenes are unskipable. Were they skipable again, it would yield less then/about 100 tomestones and very little EXP, no longer worth it.

    3. How would that keep new players safe? They can still be kicked via normal PF options if they refuse to agree to skip. They would have to remove a kick option for those two dungeons altogether, which is unlikely.
    So make it an option in the duty finder. If you select "skippable cutscenes" you'll only be grouped with other people who also selected the option, and the reward will be adjusted accordingly. If you agree to have unskippable cutscenes in exchange for a higher reward, you have no grounds to kick people for not skipping cutscenes.
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    So make it an option in the duty finder. If you select "skippable cutscenes" you'll only be grouped with other people who also selected the option, and the reward will be adjusted accordingly. If you agree to have unskippable cutscenes in exchange for a higher reward, you have no grounds to kick people for not skipping cutscenes.
    If skippable custscenes reward is actually worth it then new players will have 2 hour queue times, because only other new players will queue with them. Even if it's not worth it this will still increase the queue for new players by dividing up the population.

    Here's what you need to understand; MSQ roulette ONLY EXISTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF NEW PLAYERS. Giving new players people to run the content with is the only reason it's a roulette and has a reward. SE isn't ever going to give people a reason to intentionally avoid running it with new players.
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    Mei Coincounter
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    They plan to make the last two ARR dungeons into solo duties anyway so they shouldn't waste any time on the Duty Roulette version. It is a terrible idea to have heavy story exposition in multiplayer content in any online game and they should have realized that back then like they did with HW onward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    So make it an option in the duty finder. If you select "skippable cutscenes" you'll only be grouped with other people who also selected the option, and the reward will be adjusted accordingly. If you agree to have unskippable cutscenes in exchange for a higher reward, you have no grounds to kick people for not skipping cutscenes.
    You have no grounds to kick people for watching the cutscenes either way. Skippable or not.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    They plan to make the last two ARR dungeons into solo duties anyway so they shouldn't waste any time on the Duty Roulette version. It is a terrible idea to have heavy story exposition in multiplayer content in any online game and they should have realized that back then like they did with HW onward.
    Any source for that? Would be cool. But afaik, it was only officially said they'd remake the 2.x Patches, the two MSQ Dungeons from 2.0 being changed was mere speculation. But I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    I just hope that when the 5.3 come with the rework of the ARR MSQ they fix this forever and turn it into a solo duty. Minimum.
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    Last edited by LeoLupinos; 01-09-2020 at 12:15 AM.

  7. #27
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Ideally, the two MSQ dungeons (and Cape Westwind while we're at it, it's barely a fight anyway) would become solo/Trust duties and the whole issue would be moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    2. No, less time eating a boring cutscene = more time to get exp or whatever without looking Netflix.

    3. Yeah, because in the Overwatch's cutscene skip system you can see who doesnt want to skip it... ah no, you cant. Insults, bad use of the kick system?, report (:
    2. Why would you even do MSQ if you didn't get the bonus?

    3. It would not be that difficult to determine who is the new person. If they are the only sprout? If they are level 50 with 50 gear that isn't glamoured?

    While I would like to skip the cutscenes, I understand why they are there. Once they are skippable the bonuses go away and there is no point to run MSQ.
    I, personally, only do MSQ when I need the poetics, so it isn't that big of a deal for me. Although, I will start up again once I get MCH up to 50, because of the bonus I get for NOT SKIPPING CUTSCENES.

    Basically, if you don't like the cutscenes, you can skip them by NOT doing MSQ.
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  9. #29
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    Chisato Nishikigi
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    Skip should be an option only if EVERYONE has already done that Duty before. Giving an option to skip without actually considering first timers will make things even worse than it used to be

    "It also keeps newer players safe from being kicked in case they do want to watch it"
    No, it doesn't. Just wait until a single cutscene ends, then vote kick anyone who doesn't want to skip

    As other people already said, the current rewards for those Duties and it's roulette exist because you can skip cutscenes. Adding the option will, for sure, reduce them, and no one will like that.
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    Last edited by lolicon09; 01-09-2020 at 12:38 AM.
    When i see a Lalafell character wearing a cute glam

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    Skip should be an option only if EVERYONE has already done that Duty before. Giving an option to skip without actually considering first timers will make things even worse than it used to be

    "It also keeps newer players safe from being kicked in case they do want to watch it"
    No, it doesn't. Just wait until a single cutscene ends, then vote kick anyone who doesn't want to skip
    So then does the duty never give bonus exp then, or only give bonus exp if someone new is there, and the cutscenes can't be skipped? Because I can tell you how this would work for me. If no one is new, I leave and take the 30 minute penalty, as no bonus exp is going to be received, rendering the duty pointless for me. If the EXP bonus is gone even with people new to the duty: I stop doing the MSQ roulette.
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